ANTIFA - CHASSEURS DE SKINS (2008)
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butchersapron
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So is the first one, you just have to click cc.
imposs1904
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Watched it a few months back. Very interesting documentary. I presumed it'd already been mentioned on the BTF thread.
Divisive Cotton
Now I just have my toy soldiers
it's funny how they existed at the exactly the same time as AFA but both groups were completely ignorant of each others existence.
I don't suppose that would happen now
I don't suppose that would happen now
disco_dave_2000
la la lapland
good stuff - cheers for posting
Deareg
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There was a photo shown at one point of a group of men with the words "Red Action skinheads" sprayed on a wall in the back ground, so maybe they at least knew of us?
Did it mention the anti-fascists being active outside of Paris? Can't remember as I watched it ages ago.
butchersapron
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To what extent? Who were they fighting? Who was each group? Who could they call on as their base? These sort of questions.
More generally the BNP learnt from the FN's sidestep away from making this sort of thing the centre of their politics.
What's been debunked - that there were fascist groups in France? Never been claimed.
discokermit
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some of them in that film looked well hard.
audiotech
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You might want to rewrite this, as the last bit is the exact opposite of what was posted.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
What has been debunked?
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Yes, which i replied to. Reply which you ignored. And the question is now restated - what is debunked exactly?
audiotech
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I haven't ignored your reply.
Edit:
Comment by one of the main players at 49.57 minutes in:
"We all felt strongly about fighting fascism in France. It was a lost cause if you look at today's elections."
Militant anti-fascism played its part in France in driving the fascists off the streets and it has sent out a message that in future whenever fascists turn to the streets they will be met with antifa's.
Edit:
Comment by one of the main players at 49.57 minutes in:
"We all felt strongly about fighting fascism in France. It was a lost cause if you look at today's elections."
Militant anti-fascism played its part in France in driving the fascists off the streets and it has sent out a message that in future whenever fascists turn to the streets they will be met with antifa's.
audiotech
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The commentary describes a "dynamic, unstoppable force" against fascism that emerged in France at the time. There is also talk in the film of the development of a 'nationwide "Redskin" movement' in France. There was little association with political party's. Politics described mainly as, "anarchist-liberation". There was however some link with 'S.O.S Racism'.
audiotech
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And some of the less hard looking one's, as young as seventeen even, were taking on the most militant of the fascists. Described such: 'with arms as thick as my legs, some of whom trained French paratroopers'.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
The FN still march, in fact every May Day .
wemakeyousoundb
hopefully not gimboid
oh the memories,
I was a lot fitter then: too small to fight, to fast to get beaten up (well, most of the time)
I was a lot fitter then: too small to fight, to fast to get beaten up (well, most of the time)
you in the video?
wemakeyousoundb
hopefully not gimboid
probably not unless in the background on some gig video, only seen half so far, but I did meet/know most of the people in it.
Due to being a young punk, not a fascist but not into getting into any of the "gangs" I pretty much got a lot of shit from all sides with my mates.
The 80s, so much fun.
was batskin feared back then?
wemakeyousoundb
hopefully not gimboid
depends by who I guess, main thing with fear would have been due to reputation and hearsay.
Only time I met him was on a way to a gig, after some serious verbal aggro at the start he ended saying he'd "protect" us from the other fascist/nazis at the gig, I guess he wasn't on the train on the way back as a large gang of fascist proceeded to rob every punk onboard it with baseball bats and guns in hand, and as this was the last train there wasn't really any way of not getting onto it, possibly one of my finest moment I reckon:
"look at him, he doesn't wear anything worse stealing!"
my fashion sense has not improved in the intervening years
On arrival at the Paris train station there was a large welcoming committee of ticket inspectors and police (no one on the "scene" used to buy tickets in those days) the skinheads forced open a door opposite the platform side and made their escape that way, me and the girl I was with managed to succesfully navigate through the uniforms without getting pulled and promptly left the area.
Basically you needed to have your wits about you, keep your eyes open onto your surroundings and be sharp when spotting large gangs of shaved heads bomber wearing people (waiting till they were close enough for you to spot their colours was not a very good idea)
depends by who I guess, main thing with fear would have been due to reputation and hearsay.
Only time I met him was on a way to a gig, after some serious verbal aggro at the start he ended saying he'd "protect" us from the other fascist/nazis at the gig, I guess he wasn't on the train on the way back as a large gang of fascist proceeded to rob every punk onboard it with baseball bats and guns in hand, and as this was the last train there wasn't really any way of not getting onto it, possibly one of my finest moment I reckon:
"look at him, he doesn't wear anything worse stealing!"
my fashion sense has not improved in the intervening years
On arrival at the Paris train station there was a large welcoming committee of ticket inspectors and police (no one on the "scene" used to buy tickets in those days) the skinheads forced open a door opposite the platform side and made their escape that way, me and the girl I was with managed to succesfully navigate through the uniforms without getting pulled and promptly left the area.
Basically you needed to have your wits about you, keep your eyes open onto your surroundings and be sharp when spotting large gangs of shaved heads bomber wearing people (waiting till they were close enough for you to spot their colours was not a very good idea)
Cheers for that story!Funny thing about batskin is that he is part/full lebanese? From the Christian minority I'm guessing so he probly would look abit like a 'mud/paki' to fash in the UK at that time.
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