boohoo
No.
Why is it a bad idea?
Angel pub on Coldharbour Lane becomes arty community space run by Brick Box
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Why is it a bad idea?
TruXta
tired
3 grand for this seems like a terrible idea for any struggling creatives. It's for the well off, the people who can afford to lose money doing this kinda thing.
editor
hiraethified
So it is effectively unadvertised to anyone who's not already 'in the know' about who they are, what they're doing and where to find their website/Twitter account.
Of course, if they'd put a poster up in the window....
TruXta
tired
All those caveats hardly make it unadvertised, only advertised in a way you don't approve of.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
How would you know, you damned Johnny Foreigner? Are you some sort of Euro-meaning checker?
TruXta
tired
How would you know, you damned Johnny Foreigner? Are you some sort of Euro-meaning checker?
How much would that pay approx. p.a.? I've only got a job for another 3 months or so.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
You're over-egging your pudding. That's an understanding. The "common" one is of "trousering" a bonus. See any issue of Private Eye printed in the last 30 years for examples. The worst it implies is that the recipient may not deserve it, not that they engage in illegal activity.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
You think I'm telling you, so that you can hop on the Brussels gravy-train?
Not likely! I'm off to join my good friend Wing Commander Nigel Farage! Toodle-pip!
TruXta
tired
Allow me to do an Ed Special:
trouser verb
Definition
informal to get a large amount of money, especially in an unfair or illegal way.
http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/british/trouser_2
TruXta
tired
Either way the implication was that they hadn't earned their funding. Which is arguable. Except that Ed didn't even come close to bothering with an arguement.
boohoo
No.
ah... yer, I get your point. I'm tempted to go along and see if I qualify for the cheap option.
editor
hiraethified
It's got nothing to do with what I 'approve' of. It's about the odd way that an 'inclusive community arts' venture seem so reluctant to even put up a poster to tell people what's going on.
But you tell me: how might a passer-by, a local resident or even one of thse street drinkers they're so fond of find out about these events then? Any idea?
editor
hiraethified
That's because the Ed never made that claim and has explained it several times. So why make up stuff?
TruXta
tired
ah... yer, I get your point. I'm tempted to go along and see if I qualify for the cheap option.
You mean the "cheap" option, of 600 quid for 10 days of courses? Not counting access to the Titans of Industry. Seriously, who the fuck came up with this shit? Seriously, tell me, I've got a business proposition for them.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
You do realise that "doing something dark in the cellar" means they haven't got any working shitters, don't you?
TruXta
tired
I already said it was badly advertised. You however claimed it was not advertised, which is patently false. Cue cries of "pedantry/semantics/words".
TruXta
tired
"Implication" and "claim" are not co-extensive terms. See my previous post.
editor
hiraethified
If you want to know what I think, try asking me directly instead of suggesting what you think I might be implying. Ta.
boohoo
No.
I would expect great things of a course at that cost. Having gone for the cheap arse option for things, often I have got what I paid for.
editor
hiraethified
Where was this then?
TruXta
tired
I don't need to ask, you've made that clear already. I accept that you didn't mean to imply that they got funding illegitimately. I accept that because I believe your heart is in the right place. That's a different matter to saying that what you did write implied that they did get funds by nefarious/unfair/illegal means. You might not have meant it, but the implication was there. I'm not a mind-reader, all I have is the words on the screen.
TruXta
tired
Posts 1257 and 1261.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Well, seeing as we're worrying about the meaning of words here, you don't "earn" funding, you're awarded it on the strength of the proposal/plan/bid you submit.
editor
hiraethified
#1257 said that the event unadvertised to the street drinkers
#1262 said that it was "effectively unadvertised to anyone who's not already 'in the know'"
That does not match your claim in the slightest and you know it, and I'm getting really bored and fed up with your attempts to twist my words.
TruXta
tired
Thanks.
Post 1257 did no such thing - unless you're unusually inept at expressing yourself. AFAIK you're usually pretty handy with words. As for 1262 your caveats merely underlined the implicit claim that noone in the community could possible have been keeping tabs on a local business that has been part of the trading scene for what... close to 3 years?
TruXta
tired
Well, seeing as we're worrying about the meaning of words here, you don't "earn" funding, you're awarded it on the strength of the proposal/plan/bid you submit.
Yes, you earn it.
boohoo
No.
When he says 'all' he actually means only local 'all'.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Yes, you earn it.
No, you don't. If submitting a bid earned you anything, every fucker who submitted a bid would earn something, wouldn't they?
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