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Last time I checked Liamo doesnt swan about doing that citizen of the world ballsology,nor as far as Im aware does he claim to be an atheist , nor does his wife who has a pretty big say too. Therefore I dont see any contradiction . Liamo doesnt bring identity or religion into his politics either.

Its also blinding obvious the poster most wrapped up in identity issues here is Revol himself, for equally blindingly obvious reasons . He needs to work that out himself and not be dragging anyone elses kids into it .
 
Liam O justified it on the basis it helped provide a cultural identity.

I know loads of people who have had their kids baptised, mostly to please their partner or commonly the grandparents, that's a separate issue.
 
right, Liamo has a very pronounced english accent, as does his wife, and lives in a small very tight knit and often closed to outsiders rural Irish border community with a seriously strong sense of identity . Because of that background its only natural hed want his kids to be fully assimilated locally and not be running about in adulthood still tormented with identity issues that plainly have warped yourself .
He also grew up in area and an era were being an Irish catholic background brought you both greif and disapproval, so I imagine if he didnt feel ashamed then hes certainly not going to be ashamed now, or would he pass that shame onto his kids either . Its part of his own cultural identity .

Hes got fuck all to apologise for in that regard .

Furthermore having watched his kids grow up over the years I can honestly saw Ive never seen a happier or more well adjusted herd of them . He and his wife have done a terrific job with them and anyone can see the decisions theyve taken for them have always been in their best interests . He made the right call and it shouldnt be an issue.
 
right, Liamo has a very pronounced english accent, as does his wife, and lives in a small very tight knit and often closed to outsiders rural Irish border community with a seriously strong sense of identity . Because of that background its only natural hed want his kids to be fully assimilated locally and not be running about in adulthood still tormented with identity issues that plainly have warped yourself .
He also grew up in area and an era were being an Irish catholic background brought you both greif and disapproval, so I imagine if he didnt feel ashamed then hes certainly not going to be ashamed now, or would he pass that shame onto his kids either . Its part of his own cultural identity .


Hes got fuck all to apologise for in that regard .

Furthermore having watched his kids grow up over the years I can honestly saw Ive never seen a happier or more well adjusted herd of them . He and his wife have done a terrific job with them and anyone can see the decisions theyve taken for them have always been in their best interests . He made the right call and it shouldnt be an issue.
I agree with you that it's got fuck all to do with anyone else what decisions liam and partner make. However that's a pretty weird justification for signing up to something you don't believe in.
 
How bizarre that this has become about me and my children.

One at a time chaps and serious questions only. Revol Smallcock may not apply.
 
bollocks. there's nothing wrong at all with saying 'the way you raise your child appears to be at odds with the politics you claim to believe in'. Which I think is what revol is saying under all the bile?

OKaaaaaaaaaaay. Can you expand on this please killer b ?
 
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I agree with you that it's got fuck all to do with anyone else what decisions liam and partner make. However that's a pretty weird justification for signing up to something you don't believe in.

and perhaps you could expand on your extrapolation.... of CR's extrapolation... of what my views might actually be?
 
I agree with you that it's got fuck all to do with anyone else what decisions liam and partner make. However that's a pretty weird justification for signing up to something you don't believe in.

You know what Wilf -ie? I am sick of your passive aggression, so pony up or fuck off.

feel free to join forces with Ginger Smallcock if you like, but please post some evidence to back up his (and, by extension, your) spurious claim, rather than accepting the bona fides of a sectarian/racist bigot.

I strongly suspect that anything Orange Lil comes up with will be so bereft of context that it will be rendered entirely meaningless. But I remain open to persuasion.
 
You know what Wilf -ie? I am sick of your passive aggression, so pony up or fuck off.

feel free to join forces with Ginger Smallcock if you like, but please post some evidence to back up his (and, by extension, your) spurious claim, rather than accepting the bona fides of a sectarian/racist bigot.

I strongly suspect that anything Orange Lil comes up with will be so bereft of context that it will be rendered entirely meaningless. But I remain open to persuasion.
'Passive aggressive'? I'm more than happy to call you a sanctimonious cunt. Does that help?

Anyway, to get to it. Revol said something earlier about you having your kid(s) baptised. My post was agreeing with CR that it's up to you and partner what you do - I've haven't got the slightest interest in playing politics on something like that (though of course if you've posted those details on urban you do open the issue up - it's just that I'm not going there). However, I thought his logic for your motivation was a bit odd. Whether his account of your motivation is right, whether you believe in god, how any of this fits with your politics, I'm happy to say I haven't got a clue. For the sake of clarity, I will though call you a cunt again. :)
 
I agree with you that it's got fuck all to do with anyone else what decisions liam and partner make. However that's a pretty weird justification for signing up to something you don't believe in.

However, I thought his logic for your motivation was a bit odd. Whether his account of your motivation is right, whether you believe in god, how any of this fits with your politics, I'm happy to say I haven't got a clue.

I'm sorry but I am having a little trouble reconciling these two posts.

In the first post you are quite clearly referring to me (without of course actually checking anything).

in the second you claim you were referring to Smallcock.

You can't have it both ways wilfie.
 
OKaaaaaaaaaaay. Can you expand on this please killer b ?
CR was suggesting the family is sacrosanct, and shouldn't be touched on in political argument. I disagree - I think there's many cases where someones approach to family life is extremely relevant to their politics, and should be discussed.

I've not really been following revol's odd argument with you, so I don't know if that's the case here. But I'm certainly against some kind of blanket don't talk about the children! ban.
 
I'm sorry but I am having a little trouble reconciling these two posts.

In the first post you are quite clearly referring to me (without of course actually checking anything).

in the second you claim you were referring to Smallcock.

You can't have it both ways wilfie.
Nope. With regard to the first, I was referring to what CR said, his account of why you did what you did. I began the post with 'I agree with you' [CR] - and he replied saying he shouldn't have been speaking for you.

With regard to the second, here's the full post:

'Passive aggressive'? I'm more than happy to call you a sanctimonious cunt. Does that help?

Anyway, to get to it. Revol said something earlier about you having your kid(s) baptised. My post was agreeing with CR that it's up to you and partner what you do - I've haven't got the slightest interest in playing politics on something like that (though of course if you've posted those details on urban you do open the issue up - it's just that I'm not going there). However, I thought his logic for your motivation was a bit odd. Whether his account of your motivation is right, whether you believe in god, how any of this fits with your politics, I'm happy to say I haven't got a clue. For the sake of clarity, I will though call you a cunt again
Yes, I mentioned revol, but after that I mentioned CR. Clearly, the 'his logic' referred to CR as the person most recently named.
 
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  • that @ symbol won't work here cos you've gone KillerB rather than killler[space]b


    Personally all my kids will be beaten thoroughly with Luthers points and kicked into next week if they display left footism etc
    take them round to the local cathedral to reenact martin Luther's thesis nailing to the door personally.
 
Are you ready to admit and acknowledge Dieudonné M'bala M'bala consorts with members of the far right,including former FN members that have endorsed the policy of Pork only soupkitchens?

Yep. While simultaneously recognizing that he also consorts with what used to be called the "far left," thus giving every indication that his politics transcends the seating arrangements of the Constitutional Assembly of 1790.
 
Yep. While simultaneously recognizing that he also consorts with what used to be called the "far left," thus giving every indication that his politics transcends the seating arrangements of the Constitutional Assembly of 1790.

Which would in his own view be the synthesis of left and right ordered around an agenda of placing anti-semitism at the forefront of both domestic and international political issues.
Which in itself is nothing new and something his ideology shares with old school Strasserism.
 
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While simultaneously recognizing that he also consorts with what used to be called the "far left,"

Any names? the obvious one is Alain Sorrel but his personal political tragectory took him into the FN almost a decade ago,before leaving having failed to secure a place on the candidate shortlist, more info welcomed.
 
its him and wifes kids, not yours, you dont get a say . Now fuck up .
What absolute bollocks, of course the way children are raised should be informed by wider society as well as by the parents. Children aren't the property of their parents, to do with as they wish. Only a fool could place something so political as raising a child as being banned from discussed/criticised.
 
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