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Accused rapist Ched Evans to be released from prison

butchersapron said:
Astonishing what you find breeding under the liberal socially progressive rocks isn't it? Or at least what breeds when it's cut free from any wider collective social discipline. What horrors consent or free contract hides. And how often they look like power.
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The same posters posted similarly on the Assange threads too.
 
Chip Barm said:
The ched evans website seems to have gone quiet given all the recent media attention.
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It's weird really, things are running against him getting a contract at sheffield, with a couple of patrons and sponsors threatening to leave the club. But at the same time the way the story seems to be playing out in newspaper stories and comments, wider discussions and the like, the 'it's not really rape' line seems to gaining ground. :( That's why it's such an important case, as people have said on here, it could and should have the potential to strengthen the idea of explicit consent and capacity to give consent - but equally it could stregthen quite reactionary and narrow readings of what rape it.
 
Has he had his new review/appeal yet? Does anyone know on what basis he could be appealing again - IIRC he'd already appealed the conviction and had the appeal thrown out.
 
Vintage Paw said:
Daily Mail are reporting Sheffield will not be offering him a new contract. They are apparently "shocked" at the level of public outrage over this, and have taken their time to decide he will not be playing for the club.
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ffs how can they seriously be shocked about this?

If he had shown some kind of remorse and acceptance of what he did it would be one thing, but he hasn't.
 
What a bunch of fucking dirty calculating cowards. From their statement, they were clearly edging towards giving him a contract when the fuss died down:
The Club agrees with the recent statements of The PFA, to the effect that professional footballers should be treated as equals before the law, including in circumstances where they seek to return to work following periods of incarceration. The Club rejects the notion that society should seek to impose extrajudicial or post-term penalties on anyone. In a nation of laws, served by an elected parliament and duly constituted courts of law, there can be no place for 'mob justice'. The Club believes that the only penalties following from a conviction on any charge should be those set forth in law and deemed appropriate by a court of competent jurisdiction
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Whilst I (obviously) don't think he should have got another contract, this climb down by the club makes them even worse than if they'd had the courage of their convictions and re-employed him.
 
Vintage Paw said:
I think Ennis-Hill asking for her name to be removed from the stand might have been a final straw for them. It's the sort of thing that attracts a lot of attention. Likely not the only thing that had an effect, but still.
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Definitely. They will have worried about sponsor's reaction but could have felt that this would die down and they'd get new sponsors or the existing ones would stick it out, but this would have been a permanent thing, and somewhere at an emotional level they are now choosing between Jessica and Ched, and that's going to have a different kind of effect to the business decision around sponsors.
 
Problem is, if this new legal team somehow wins this new appeal then I wonder how the press reaction will change... people can no longer protests against the signing of a 'convicted rapist' - could easily switch to being a a victim of a 'miscarriage of justice' as his PR team are trying to portray him as at the moment. His co-defender isn't having many issues with negative publicity stopping his career and everyone now knows what they both got up to. United can carry on letting him train and then wait and see if he does manage to get his conviction quashed... then, if that occurs, after some swing in publicity his way they can sign him... I'm sure they were already aware of the negative publicity should they sign him now, it is clearly a no-go - I'm assuming that part of the reason they're letting him train is that they believe there is some chance of his next appeal succeeding, in which case, with a bit of extra PR portraying him as a 'victim' they can then sign him.
 
Dowie said:
Problem is, if this new legal team somehow wins this new appeal then I wonder how the press reaction will change... people can no longer protests against the signing of a 'convicted rapist' - could easily switch to being a a victim of a 'miscarriage of justice' as his PR team are trying to portray him as at the moment. His co-defender isn't having many issues with negative publicity stopping his career and everyone now knows what they both got up to. United can carry on letting him train and then wait and see if he does manage to get his conviction quashed... then, if that occurs, after some swing in publicity his way they can sign him... I'm sure they were already aware of the negative publicity should they sign him now, it is clearly a no-go - I'm assuming that part of the reason they're letting him train is that they believe there is some chance of his next appeal succeeding, in which case, with a bit of extra PR portraying him as a 'victim' they can then sign him.
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First, his appeal in 2012 was rejected.

As has been previously posted, there isn't currently an appeal to be heard. There is an application to make another appeal but that has not yet been decided.
 
Wilf said:
What a bunch of fucking dirty calculating cowards. From their statement, they were clearly edging towards giving him a contract when the fuss died down:

Whilst I (obviously) don't think he should have got another contract, this climb down by the club makes them even worse than if they'd had the courage of their convictions and re-employed him.
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Within 'the club' there has probably been a lot of infighting and differences of opinion. It is because of actions by folk like Ennis-Hill - and others - that those who didn't want Evans back at the club may have won out. Be interesting (if this is the case) to see if any board members/coaches/staff leave the club in the next few months...
 
I wish people would stop calling Sheffield United "Sheffield" - there's other clubs in the city, at least two of them infinitely superior and if there's aclub that can be legitimately referred to as Sheffield it's Sheffield fc, the oldest club in the world.
 
Dowie said:
His co-defender isn't having many issues with negative publicity stopping his career and everyone now knows what they both got up to.
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Clayton McDonald is currently playing for Southport in the conference - his career has not benefitted at all from being found not guilty - it has gone down hill since
 
Dowie said:
Problem is, if this new legal team somehow wins this new appeal then I wonder how the press reaction will change... people can no longer protests against the signing of a 'convicted rapist' - could easily switch to being a a victim of a 'miscarriage of justice' as his PR team are trying to portray him as at the moment. His co-defender isn't having many issues with negative publicity stopping his career and everyone now knows what they both got up to. United can carry on letting him train and then wait and see if he does manage to get his conviction quashed... then, if that occurs, after some swing in publicity his way they can sign him... I'm sure they were already aware of the negative publicity should they sign him now, it is clearly a no-go - I'm assuming that part of the reason they're letting him train is that they believe there is some chance of his next appeal succeeding, in which case, with a bit of extra PR portraying him as a 'victim' they can then sign him.
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If, notwithstanding i) the unanimous guilty verdict, ii) the fact that permission to appeal has been refused twice, and, iii) the lack of any obvious basis for asserting that the judge misdirected the jury, the CCRC decide that this case is a possible miscarriage of justice, such that it is referred to the Court of Appeal, and that appeal is successful, and the Court of Appeal acquits rather than orders a retrial, then, in the eyes of the law, he will be 'not guilty'. He wouldn't be a convicted rapist; rather he'll be someone who spent two and half years in prison for a crime he didn't commit. In which case, it'd be hard to maintain an argument that he shouldn't be re-signed.

But I'd be very, very surprised if that happened.
 
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