Accused rapist Ched Evans to be released from prison
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In case you hadn't noticed, numbnut, half of us 'arabs' are women, and we're capable of thinking for ourselves, as are our 'brothers', outside our 'arabness', without people speaking on our behalf , shukran you very much
CyberRose
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Here's the official statement from the club regarding Evans training with them...
http://mobile.sufc.co.uk/news/article/20141111-statement-2078346.aspx
http://mobile.sufc.co.uk/news/article/20141111-statement-2078346.aspx
equationgirl
Respect my existence or expect my resistance
Thanks for posting that. It sets out their position quite clearly, although I find their statements about Evans sharing their value judgments about rape somewhat at odds with the case his defence put forward.
CyberRose
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Yea, he agrees rape is a heinous crime, he just doesn't think what he did was rape (as well as a disturbing number of people, including a lot of women)
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
I'm not sure about the timing of the pfa 'request' to his last club, but I'd guess evans representatives and the club were talking well before it was made. And even though it was only recognising that he had made such a statement (rather than agreeing with what he said), the wording of this was a rather helpful spin on what he did actually acknowledge:
equationgirl
Respect my existence or expect my resistance
Aye 'the acts that lead to his conviction' not 'the crimes that he carried out'. Very telling.
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
If I remember correctly, on his website the only thing he acknowledged - with regard to 'the destructive nature of the acts which led to his conviction' - was cheating on his girlfriend (I'm not going back to check, felt a bit grubby going there in the first place). Nothing about the victim.
likesfish
You can't park here sir
Exactly
If he showed any remorse/compassion to his victim people might not be so against him.
But calling ched a role model for fighting against injustice
No he deserves all the shit he gets.
Re the birmigham 6 that was a miscarrige of justice ched thought two's up on a drunken woman his mate picked up was reasonable behaviour so bollocks about the miscarrige of justice.
If he showed any remorse/compassion to his victim people might not be so against him.
But calling ched a role model for fighting against injustice
No he deserves all the shit he gets.
Re the birmigham 6 that was a miscarrige of justice ched thought two's up on a drunken woman his mate picked up was reasonable behaviour so bollocks about the miscarrige of justice.
andysays
Love and solidarity
Quite apart from your casual slandering of arabs, if this thread has demonstrated anything, it's that not all "people in the west" see crimes against women in the same way.
It isn't necessary to journey many 100s of miles to the east to find those who are prepared to commit crimes against women and then deny that what they did was a crime, or those who are prepared to go along with the denial or at least overlook the crime if they would prefer to believe it couldn't possibly have happened that way.
comrade spurski
Well-Known Member
Are the fans arabs then? Only asking as these fans obviously " look at crimes against women in a slightly different way to people in the west."
And why is the word crime in inverted commas in your response?
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
Says, not 'agrees' - he's just a turd pretending that he gives a fuck.
Meanwhile, well done to club patron charlie Webster - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-30015701
Got any anecdotal evidence of that?
hash tag
Reaching out
Which bit, about Middle East and rape - hows this for a start http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-23381448
or about some Blades fans supporting his return - I can't find the television news link, but hows this to be going on with http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/524420/Ched-Evans-Sheffield-United-fans-chant-return-rapist
Yep well done Charlie for resigning.
or about some Blades fans supporting his return - I can't find the television news link, but hows this to be going on with http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/524420/Ched-Evans-Sheffield-United-fans-chant-return-rapist
Yep well done Charlie for resigning.
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
everyone knows some blades fans support his return - altho the chanters were a small minority in one section of the ground only.
As for arabs being dodgy on rape, yes of course some are, but you could pull exactly the same stories from the UK and ignorant british judges. And lets not forget that Blackpool FC are still owned by the rapist Owen Oyston
As for arabs being dodgy on rape, yes of course some are, but you could pull exactly the same stories from the UK and ignorant british judges. And lets not forget that Blackpool FC are still owned by the rapist Owen Oyston
andysays
Love and solidarity
Not sure how those two things, together or seperately, support your original contention that
although they would support the facile observation that you can find a sub-group of cunts within just about any larger group you care to mention.
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
hash tag may have a point; many Arab nations impose the death penalty for rape. We appear to give rapists the opportunity to earn millions of pounds whilst being an icon to teenage boys.
hash tag
Reaching out
More to the point, Utd are 50% owned by a Saudi Prince. I am not saying that the bloke is bad but women have no rights in Saudi, in fact Saudi rank 127th out of 136, when it comes to equality for women. I wonder if the owner actually views rape as a crime against the perpetrator or the victim? If his views are different to ours, then he may not look on this rapist in such a bad light as the rest of us and may be ok about resigning him.
likesfish
You can't park here sir
Tbf all concerned would jailed/killed in saudi public drunkness adultery not wearing a tent etc etc etc
But then saudi arabia isnt exactly a place anyone would take answers from apart from obviously.
i have a billion dollars and want to spend it in the most tasteless way ever
Tbf its another plaything for the prince he probably cares very little for the players.
Cheds defence was she wanted it and any way shes a total slag so must have wanted it The only thing I regret is cheating on my precious girlfriend 
But then saudi arabia isnt exactly a place anyone would take answers from apart from obviously.
i have a billion dollars and want to spend it in the most tasteless way ever
Tbf its another plaything for the prince he probably cares very little for the players.
Cheds defence was she wanted it and any way shes a total slag so must have wanted it
The only thing I regret is cheating on my precious girlfriend An authoritarian conservatively and bordering extreme Islamic regime? Hardly many Arabs is it.
Some have been known to punish the victim too.
andysays
Love and solidarity
Could you make some attempt to explain exactly who the "we" or the "ours" is in your respective posts.
We have already established pretty conclusively that even if the particular Saudi prince does view rape in this way (and I have no idea if he does or doesn't), his views are not significantly different from Ched Evans, or from a minority of Sheffield United fans (and no doubt many others as well).
And just because some Arab states impose the death penalty for rape, that doesn't tell us anything about "arabs" in general, which was the original contention. "We" generally don't give rapists the opportunity to earn millions of pounds whilst being an icon to teenage boys, which is why this case has caused the reaction it has.
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
Why are you choosing to ignore the fact that - as previously stated - the day to day running of the club is left to the englishman, Kevin McCabe (owner of 50% of the club)
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Jesus you're writing some crap this morning.
andysays
Love and solidarity
I am frankly amazed and disappointed that various people are now making this about the ethnicity of the part-owner of Sheffield United.
Next you'll be arguing that none of this would ever have happened had it not been for the pernicious influence of "foreigners" bringing in their nasty misogynist ways and sullying nice respectable British football.
Next you'll be arguing that none of this would ever have happened had it not been for the pernicious influence of "foreigners" bringing in their nasty misogynist ways and sullying nice respectable British football.
andysays
Love and solidarity
When it comes to punishing the victim, let's not forget that the victim in this case has been outed and hounded to the extent that she has had to assume a new identity.
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
Yes, some Arab states have been known to do this. Whereas in the UK the victim is protected fully...oh wait.
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