Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
If the tories abstain it's all up for that nefandous party
Absolutely the only single GE 2017 results thread.
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bimble
floofy
Ye I have absolutely no clue what i'm doing, don't even know what your post means. In a way I hope i lose my tenner to avoid any slippery slopes.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
If you bet each way it means if the object of your bet comes 1, 2 or 3 you win a quarter of the odds you had for them to come first, good for uncertainty.
newbie
undisambiguated
I meant could Labour abstain, leave May to dig ever deeper. It's too farfetched isn't it?
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
May already halfway to china
19force8
For the avoidance of faith
It's the losing that's addictive, so already too late
teqniq
DisMembered
It sounds really good if you imagine it being said with a mouthful of ashes.
teqniq
DisMembered
Originally seen on fb with a story in the Express googled around to see if there were any other sources, the scum has run the story and also The Scotsman:
Sinn Fein MP’s ‘fly to London to take up Westminster offices’
Sinn Fein MP’s ‘fly to London to take up Westminster offices’
No, it says 'could'
beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
That's not news though is it? They've had offices in Westminster for a while now, they just never take up the seats.
I know. Still good to know potential outcomes eh?
We all know this is going to be a shit show. The Tories will try and play brinkmanship against 27 other countries and then at the last minute have to back down. The press will blame this all on JereMaotseTung Corbynpolpot and hire Nigel Farage to save the day. He will then reproduce with Katie Hopkins to produce the Kwisatz Haderach and the universe will explode.
not-bono-ever
meh
they seem to have confirmed thet they will not be taking up their seats
DownwardDog
Riding a Brompton with a power meter.
He's probably just expressed his fondness for the EU, cigars and jazz.
Corax
Luke 5:16
And it's exactly what will happen. May will claim that no 'deal' has been done, that she's just confident, after discussions, that the parties' pre-existing aims and plans are already aligned on key areas to enough of an extent she will be able to run a minority government.
She'll claim that was what was intended all along, and anything else was just media trouble-making. Irresponsible media trouble-making at that, putting the peace in NI that her party have worked so hard for perilously at risk. They may even try to work in a "Jezza's a Conto" side-story.
That line will be taken so that contravention of the GFA can be denied, and any further protest by SF will be met with an "appeal" to them to engage with parliamentary politics by taking up their seats.
tl;dr - It's a clusterfuck, but they'll wriggle through it like sentient sewer slime
no shit
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
she's such a fucking muppet
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
If the QS didn't pass, it would pass to Corbyn, but what would pass would be the chance to form a government. His own QS would fail to get a majority > another election. Presumably - there's a 'presumably' to add to everything at the moment.
I was reading the last time this happened, the tories abstained on the QS so as not to force another election - I doubt they'd want to chance it right now.If the QS didn't pass, it would pass to Corbyn, but what would pass would be the chance to form a government. His own QS would fail to get a majority > another election. Presumably - there's a 'presumably' to add to everything at the moment.
The Fixed Term Parliaments Act muddies the water though - I'm not totally clear how it works now...
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
Which, iirc, was suspended to allow May's splendid adventure but is back in force again.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
theres a bit in the marr-corbyn interview where marr asks him about sinn fein taking their seats and corbyn finds a polite way to tell him not to be a feckin eejit
no, this election was conducted under the terms of the FTPA - they needed a two-thirds majority to call an election, which Corbyn gave them.
A Queens Speech is no longer a confidence vote under the FTPA though - only a no confidence vote can unseat a government: I'm not sure if that counts in this case though as the government isn't really in place yet? Something for the lawyers, no doubt...
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
Oh god, yes, my fucking memory!no, this election was conducted under the terms of the FTPA - they needed a two-thirds majority to call an election, which Corbyn gave them.
A Queens Speech is no longer a confidence vote under the FTPA though - only a no confidence vote can unseat a government: I'm not sure if that counts in this case though as the government isn't really in place yet? Something for the lawyers, no doubt...
Probably the reason I forgot is that everything is all over the place. Voting to allow the election was supposed to be virtually Corbyn's last act, turkeys voting for Christmas and all that. Whereas the actual outcome was Ho + Ho + Ho.
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
As you say, we haven't actually got a government at the moment. Defeat for the QS would mean Jezza gets a gono, this election was conducted under the terms of the FTPA - they needed a two-thirds majority to call an election, which Corbyn gave them.
A Queens Speech is no longer a confidence vote under the FTPA though - only a no confidence vote can unseat a government: I'm not sure if that counts in this case though as the government isn't really in place yet? Something for the lawyers, no doubt...
Corax
Luke 5:16
Oh god, yes, my fucking memory!
Crispy
The following psytrance is baṉned: All
Ask, and ye shall receive
GE2017 - Constituency results
(excludes NI)
(also excludes no. of registered voters, so no turnout numbers)
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
Indeed. Unfortunately for us and for her, more specifically, that's "very poor" quality.
