A thank you to Brexiteers.

[Brainaddict]

There's a sellotape glut in Germany if you're interested. Sellotape mountain.

Probably cost more in customs fees to send it than to make it myself out of oil and horse bones

 

[Brainaddict]

This is a sore point with we philatelists.

Postage stamps may be zero rated for VAT*, or rated at 5%. Ebay is smacking 20% on all non-UK purchases.

This has killed business for EU sellers pretty much dead. Buying on Ebay, you are buying retail, retail plus 20% is just not going to happen.

I'm now buying only from the UK.

'Stamps over 100 years old or cancelled are 5%, usable stamps 20%, demonetized stamps should be 5%, but everything is getting clobbered at 20%.

No, I didn't vote to leave.

Surely leaves a gap in the market for a specialist site that knows how to tax stamps. Set it up yourself with some off-the-shelf ecommerce software and remortgage your house to get it off the ground - that's the kind of thrusting, dynamic capitalism Brexit was meant to bring out of all of us!

 

[two sheds]

Probably cost more in customs fees to send it than to make it myself out of oil and horse bones

and not sure you'd be receiving it before the next time you need to sellotape up the next returns

 

[Sasaferrato]

Surely leaves a gap in the market for a specialist site that knows how to tax stamps. Set it up yourself with some off-the-shelf ecommerce software and remortgage your house to get it off the ground - that's the kind of thrusting, dynamic capitalism Brexit was meant to bring out of all of us!

I am retired.

 

[two sheds]

Pah no drive. Alternatively a profitable smuggling operation beckons.

 

[Brainaddict]

I am retired.

So was Captain Tom.

 

[Sasaferrato]

So was Captain Tom.

He was more motivated than me.

 

[dessiato]

He was more motivated than me.

But he was RAF.

 

[Sasaferrato]

But he was RAF.

I don't hold that against him, he was young and foolish.

 

[Supine]

My wife had a job interview at the beginning of the week. It went well. She has just been told that despite this, they need an EU citizen for the job. Before Brexit this would not have been a problem.

Same here. Lots of new contracts only open to EU Passport holders

 

[andysays]

Same here. Lots of new contracts only open to EU Passport holders

This is interesting.

A number of people I work with have relatively recently (say the last ten years) moved to the UK from EU countries and as far as I'm aware are still citizens of their country of origin.

None of them have mentioned any issues or problems for them remaining in employment as a result of Brexit, and this includes at least one person who isn't directly employed but is working through an agency.

So I wonder whether it is now a legal requirement for either new or existing workers to be EU/UK citizens (depending on where they are), or whether the case dessiato describes is more down to a potential employer deciding it's too much trouble to go through whatever additional paperwork is required.

(not that it's much consolation for your missus either way, dess, and I hope she finds a way of resolving things)

 

[Elpenor]

Someone Dutch on another forum I use reckoned they weren’t eligible to be a PCSO due to not being British.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Someone Dutch on another forum I use reckoned they weren’t eligible to be a PCSO due to not being British.

Well that’s bollocks for a start; Are you eligible to be a PCSO?

 

[The39thStep]

This is interesting.

A number of people I work with have relatively recently (say the last ten years) moved to the UK from EU countries and as far as I'm aware are still citizens of their country of origin.

None of them have mentioned any issues or problems for them remaining in employment as a result of Brexit, and this includes at least one person who isn't directly employed but is working through an agency.

So I wonder whether it is now a legal requirement for either new or existing workers to be EU/UK citizens (depending on where they are), or whether the case dessiato describes is more down to a potential employer deciding it's too much trouble to go through whatever additional paperwork is required.

(not that it's much consolation for your missus either way, dess, and I hope she finds a way of resolving things)

Over here most jobs require residency , social security number and fiscal number . Three simple applications .
Residency also allows to you work, or live in another EU country for 90 days .

 

[Elpenor]

Well that’s bollocks for a start; Are you eligible to be a PCSO?

I thought so too!

Edit - Dutch cops

 

[dessiato]

Over here most jobs require residency , social security number and fiscal number . Three simple applications .
Residency also allows to you work, or live in another EU country for 90 days .

In my wife's case she has all of this, which it was such a blow to be turned down.

 

[dessiato]

This is interesting.

A number of people I work with have relatively recently (say the last ten years) moved to the UK from EU countries and as far as I'm aware are still citizens of their country of origin.

None of them have mentioned any issues or problems for them remaining in employment as a result of Brexit, and this includes at least one person who isn't directly employed but is working through an agency.

So I wonder whether it is now a legal requirement for either new or existing workers to be EU/UK citizens (depending on where they are), or whether the case dessiato describes is more down to a potential employer deciding it's too much trouble to go through whatever additional paperwork is required.

(not that it's much consolation for your missus either way, dess, and I hope she finds a way of resolving things)

The frustration is that we both have full permanent spanish residency including the right to work here. We have TIE, NIE, and SS, but...

 

[andysays]

The frustration is that we both have full permanent spanish residency including the right to work here. We have TIE, NIE, and SS, but...

And this is why I'm wondering if it really is a legal requirement to be an EU citizen, or if it's simply a decision taken by someone in the company who your wife has applied to for a job.

 

[Raheem]

Speculating, but could it be that there's a degree of certainty regarding the status of EU citizens because of the withdrawal agreement, but for the rest of the world who knows where we'll be in six months' time?

 

[Gromit]

UK food and drink exports to the EU almost halve in first quarter

The pandemic and Brexit hit exports in the first three months of the year, says the Food and Drink Federation.

www.bbc.co.uk

Thank you Brexit for keeping our goods out of the hands of those foreign devils who don’t deserve them.

 

[Artaxerxes]

The labour shortage is pretty funny tbf

 

[two sheds]

HERSELF

 

[Smokeandsteam]

The labour shortage is pretty funny tbf

It’s also an opportunity for unions to negotiate sectoral pay agreements that can begin to rebuild pay, terms and conditions in the most exploitative parts of the Labour market: care, hospitality, distribution, retail. Their inaction, possibly arising from their disorientated political collapse into remain (in the main) or maybe just because their bloated and ageing bureaucracies are fucking useless, is pitiful.

 

[Artaxerxes]

It’s also an opportunity for unions to negotiate sectoral pay agreements that can begin to rebuild pay, terms and conditions in the most exploitative parts of the Labour market: care, hospitality, distribution, retail. Their inaction, possibly arising from their disorientated political collapse into remain (in the main) or maybe just because their bloated and ageing bureaucracies are fucking useless, is pitiful.

The collapse is mostly because they are pretty much appendixes these days with very little power or publicity and every possible mechanism has been used by the state to ensure they can't affect change.

The ones that are decent like the tube workers ones are routinely vilified.

 

[Smokeandsteam]

The collapse is mostly because they are pretty much appendixes these days with very little power or publicity and every possible mechanism has been used by the state to ensure they can't affect change.

The ones that are decent like the tube workers ones are routinely vilified.

Of course. So, the question is what is the movement going to do to address that. It’s not like those conditions are unique historically or spatially. If unions can’t or won’t organise in growing sectors of the economy, where there is a labour shortage, a growing recognition by workers of their bargaining power and employers desperate for labour then the problem is a more fundamental one than the usual excuse trotted out that ‘it’s all too hard’

 

[Brainaddict]

Of course. So, the question is what is the movement going to do to address that. It’s not like those conditions are unique historically or spatially. If unions can’t or won’t organise in growing sectors of the economy, where there is a labour shortage, a growing recognition by workers of their bargaining power and employers desperate for labour then the problem is a more fundamental one than the usual excuse trotted out that ‘it’s all too hard’

I know I'm only saying things that people have said and thought a million times but doesn't make it less true: it was fatal for the unions to aggregate to the point of developing large bureaucracies. It is essentially impossible for them to take risks or even want significant change, no matter how much certain individuals in their ranks might want those things. And saying they are held back by the state regulation and laws that bind them etc has some truth to it, but also they don't even have to obey those laws - how did trade unionism start but in a constant state of illegality? And UVW or IWGB can move into a workplace and organise a strike within a week or two. The big unions will take ten years to change their behaviour in response to a labour shortage. I would suggest anyone who believes union organising can or should be radical should not waste their energy on the big unions.

 

[Artaxerxes]

Of course. So, the question is what is the movement going to do to address that. It’s not like those conditions are unique historically or spatially. If unions can’t or won’t organise in growing sectors of the economy, where there is a labour shortage, a growing recognition by workers of their bargaining power and employers desperate for labour then the problem is a more fundamental one than the usual excuse trotted out that ‘it’s all too hard’

The challenge is coping with the change in working life and culture - office workers namely. There needs to be more solidarity amongst a group of people who have a vast range of job descriptions all within the same building and the same company and whose jobs are often peak "compete or die"

 

[nogojones]

The labour shortage is pretty funny tbf

How awful for her. It must be so undignified

 

[Pickman's model]

He was more motivated than me.

If you put the same effort into your posts he put into walking round his garden then urban would be a rather better place.

 

[Pickman's model]

It’s also an opportunity for unions to negotiate sectoral pay agreements that can begin to rebuild pay, terms and conditions in the most exploitative parts of the Labour market: care, hospitality, distribution, retail. Their inaction, possibly arising from their disorientated political collapse into remain (in the main) or maybe just because their bloated and ageing bureaucracies are fucking useless, is pitiful.

I thought that you might number sex work in your list of the most exploitative parts of the labour market. Not to mention garment factories Exploited workers at UK garment factories 'robbed' of £27m since July and construction, recycling, nail bars and car washes Slaves working in UK construction and car washes, report finds