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A thank you to Brexiteers.

I think there is a danger of blaming everything on the direct effects of Brexit, as oppossed to the very real negative influence of having a bunch of cunts governing us afterwards. Yes I know the 2 things are linked, but I feel if Brexit had happened under a different even vaguely competent administration then some of this shit would be lessened
 
_Russ_ said:
I think there is a danger of blaming everything on the direct effects of Brexit, as oppossed to the very real negative influence of having a bunch of cunts governing us afterwards. Yes I know the 2 things are linked, but I feel if Brexit had happened under a different even vaguely competent administration then some of this shit would be lessened
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Whoever would be in charge after a vote for the UK to leave the EU the shit in Ireland would’ve happened.
Two different systems with a border in between means conflict with the terms of the Belfast Agreement.
In my view the Irish situation encapsulates all that is bad about the vote to leave for the whole of the UK.
 
_Russ_ said:
I think there is a danger of blaming everything on the direct effects of Brexit, as oppossed to the very real negative influence of having a bunch of cunts governing us afterwards. Yes I know the 2 things are linked, but I feel if Brexit had happened under a different even vaguely competent administration then some of this shit would be lessened
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Yeah, but probably best we stick to Actually Existing Brexit (AEB), rather than any hypotheticals, eh?
 
_Russ_ said:
I think there is a danger of blaming everything on the direct effects of Brexit, as oppossed to the very real negative influence of having a bunch of cunts governing us afterwards. Yes I know the 2 things are linked, but I feel if Brexit had happened under a different even vaguely competent administration then some of this shit would be lessened
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Yes, as Larry Elliot has pointed out in the Guardian this morning the vote opened up a real opportunity for a party on the left to own the future but "one reason is that the Conservatives are united behind a plan for post-Brexit Britain they believe in, while Labour would rather not talk about Brexit at all. This is not a good place to be – and something the relatively small number of Labour Brexiters feared would happen. They argued – as Johnson is now doing – that leaving the EU presented an opportunity to restructure the economy and warned that if a party of the left did not make a positive case for change, then the vacuum would be filled by the right".

The tragedy of Corbynism was its defeat by and its eventual capitulation to the liberal remainers in the party. Had Labour gone into the 2019 election promising to deliver Brexit, setting out how its economic plan would restructure a post Brexit economy (the high wage economy that Johnson has now stumbled upon as an idea but with a set of serious commitments to end precarity, better employment rights, an end to fire and re-hire, sectoral bargaining, a collective bargaining framework bringing trade unions to the table, a national investment bank etc etc) then things would have been different. As it is Labour's response to the current crisis indicates that far from learning the lessons the party intends to keep digging the hole that its created for itself and may end up buried in.
 
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_Russ_ said:
I think there is a danger of blaming everything on the direct effects of Brexit, as oppossed to the very real negative influence of having a bunch of cunts governing us afterwards. Yes I know the 2 things are linked, but I feel if Brexit had happened under a different even vaguely competent administration then some of this shit would be lessened
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I probably would have voted for Brexit under Corbyn than Remain under the #ToryScum.
 
philosophical said:
Whoever would be in charge after a vote for the UK to leave the EU the shit in Ireland would’ve happened.
Two different systems with a border in between means conflict with the terms of the Belfast Agreement.
In my view the Irish situation encapsulates all that is bad about the vote to leave for the whole of the UK.
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To be completely Honest, I dont give anywhere near as much of a fuck about Ireland as the media, politicians and big business do
I doubt i'm in the minority (well I probably am in here)
 
_Russ_ said:
To be completely Honest, I dont give anywhere near as much of a fuck about Ireland as the media, politicians and big business do
I doubt i'm in the minority (well I probably am in here)
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The government seems to take the same attitude as you, which is why they completely failed to think about NI until the last minute
 
_Russ_ said:
To be completely Honest, I dont give anywhere near as much of a fuck about Ireland as the media, politicians and big business do
I doubt i'm in the minority (well I probably am in here)
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Nobody* in England gives a shit about Ireland until the bombs start going off - which is why Boris happily threw the DUP under a bus and put up a customs border in the Irish Sea despite 5 years of people saying “no British pm would ever do this”

*important or the bulk of the electorate, as someone of Irish descent I care natch
 
Artaxerxes said:
Nobody* in England gives a shit about Ireland until the bombs start going off - which is why Boris happily threw the DUP under a bus and put up a customs border in the Irish Sea despite 5 years of people saying “no British pm would ever do this”

*important or the bulk of the electorate, as someone of Irish descent I care natch
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WAs very limp wrist ed negotiate to be sure. Fuckers didn't even try to get it renamed the Welsh Channel
 
Pickman's model said:
This is one of those times when stopping digging now would be a good idea. You don't want to appear stupid as well as homophobic, after all
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It simply means effeminate or submissive, its a derogatory term but not exclusively aimed at arse bandits
 
The Tories seem to have begun with the 'telling people concerned about turkeys and presents that they should ponder the real meaning of Christmas', despite the fact they spent all last autumn letting a huge winter infection level build up by insisting on 'saving Christmas' so as not to put people off spending money in the run up to the Christmas they knew perfectly well wasn't going to be able to proceed as normal.
 
Cloo said:
The Tories seem to have begun with the 'telling people concerned about turkeys and presents that they should ponder the real meaning of Christmas', despite the fact they spent all last autumn letting a huge winter infection level build up by insisting on 'saving Christmas' so as not to put people off spending money in the run up to the Christmas they knew perfectly well wasn't going to be able to proceed as normal.
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2+2 = 5
 
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