A thank you to Brexiteers.

[Badgers]

What did you witness and when?

Food shortages
Recently

 

[bimble]

I have seen none thus far. Choice or product shortages. Just wondering about first hand reports rather than shit photo shop empty shelf memes.

Lucky you. Only 1 in ten people now say they’ve not noticed it at all.

 

[TopCat]

Food shortages
Recently

Come on Badgers. A bit of detail. What was not available and where/when? Did you find IT elsewhere?

 

[TopCat]

Lucky you. Only 1 in ten people now say they’re not noticed it at all.

What have you noticed? Where and when?

 

[bimble]

What have you noticed? Where and when?

I’ve been moaning about it since sometime in July. It’s been constant here, nobody is starving just always a bit exciting when you go to the supermarket to see what on your list will be available & what won’t. every time for months.

 

[TopCat]

I’ve been moaning about it since sometime in July. It’s been constant here, nobody is starving just always a bit exciting when you go to the supermarket to see what on your list will be available & what won’t. Every time for months.

Fuck me this is like pulling teeth. I read the posts and don’t recollect many first hand accounts of shortages.

What did you find unavailable last week and where? Did you get the items elsewhere? Be specific please.

 

[bimble]

Fuck me this is like pulling teeth. I read the posts and don’t recollect many first hand accounts of shortages.

What did you find unavailable last week and where? Did you get the items elsewhere? Be specific please.

Why? Do you think I’m pretending or something? I think last time it was just frozen stuff that was not there, and salad. The time before there was absolutely no milk in the big tescos apart from fucking hippie vegan stuff, that was scary but very unusual. Frozen stuff has been low in stock all the time. If you want to believe that 9/10 people are pretending to have experienced issues carry on !

 

[Chilli.s]

What have you noticed? Where and when?

Went to a Morrisons a few weeks ago and they had no new potatoes, just none... a few days later, all fine. Hardly a food shortage but a bit weird to have no stock of an in season food staple. And the Coop yesterday had loads of empty space in the chiller cabs, so only about 30% of the stock that they would normally have carried in that type of product

 

[bimble]

first hand reports rather than shit photo shop empty shelf memes

Here’s a meme for you.

I wanted to go to the coop but they haven't been getting much deliveries lately so went to they bigger Waitrose instead... The fruit and veg section :

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That's the worst I've seen yet

 

[Badgers]

Fuck me this is like pulling teeth. I read the posts and don’t recollect many first hand accounts of shortages.

What did you find unavailable last week and where? Did you get the items elsewhere? Be specific please.

I just went to a coop in Luton. Virtually no (raw) meat on the shelves. Zero chicken.

 

[bimble]

Zero chicken.

Bloody kulak farmers again, they’re hoarding chickens.

 

[Supine]

Some of us are still in the denial stage of a crisis i see!

 

[bimble]

Some of us are still in the denial stage of a crisis i see!

Not many of them left but it is impressive when you see one up close like this. At the beginning it was normal for true believers to say it was remoaners lying & doing photoshop but at this point it’s quite special.

 

[andysays]

I’m fine with Blame the Farmers, but am sad about the bigger picture, which is less British food more imports as a result of brexit.

Maybe my previous post could have been clearer.

I'm not seeking to blame individual farmers, at least not primarily. The main blame lies with the farming industry and the major distributors like the supermarkets for allowing this situation to develop in the pursuit of short term profit, and the government for encouraging them.

And the end result may turn out to be less British food more imports, but it's not an inevitability, even now.

 

[bimble]

Maybe my previous post could have been clearer.

I'm not seeking to blame individual farmers, at least not primarily. The main blame lies with the farming industry and the major distributors like the supermarkets for allowing this situation to develop in the pursuit of short term profit, and the government for encouraging them.

And the end result may turn out to be less British food more imports, but it's not an inevitability, even now.

What do you reckon of this, Yossarian ’s question?
Do you agree that there are no ‘rich countries’ who pick their own veg but still maintain that None of the above is an actual possibility ?

Is there a comparable country where seasonal agricultural work is all done by locals?

The approach of other relatively wealthy nations seems to be

A) bring in seasonal workers from elsewhere (US, Australia, Canada, Germany, France, Sweden, Switzerland, etc.)
B) import all the food (Hong Kong, Singapore)
C) grudgingly bring in some foreign workers but try to have as much as possible done by robots (Japan)

C might be the most appealing option for the Tories - this will all have been worth it if we get to see Boris Johnson disembowelled by a rogue strawberry-picking robot next time he's cosplaying on a farm.

 

[ElizabethofYork]

What have you noticed? Where and when?

I've just been to our usually well-stocked co-op for a few bits. They had no
tomatoes
lettuce
yoghurt
ham

And that's just the things I was looking for. Not sure about other stuff.

This is quite unusual.

 

[brogdale]

Anyone been out for a panic tank-fill yet?

 

[andysays]

What do you reckon of this, Yossarian ’s question?
Do you agree that there are no ‘rich countries’ who pick their own veg but still maintain that None of the above is an actual possibility ?

I read Yossarian 's post with interest.

I don't know the answer to that question, and I'd be interested to see a bit more data beyond the very basic.

But part of what I'm trying to argue is that it is at least possible to imagine a different model for eg the food industry, and that possibility isn't negated by the fact that that model isn't currently practiced anywhere among the countries listed.

 

[bimble]

I read Yossarian 's post with interest.

I don't know the answer to that question, and I'd be interested to see a bit more data beyond the very basic.

But part of what I'm trying to argue is that it is at least possible to imagine a different model for eg the food industry, and that possibility isn't negated by the fact that that model isn't currently practiced anywhere among the countries listed.

Oh, yes. It is totally possible to imagine a better world. Good thing to do too. In small local ways it’s happening, communal gardens my local veg place etc.

 

[andysays]

Anyone been out for a panic tank-fill yet?

I had to go to fill up a load of jerry cans with petrol for work this morning.

No panic buying or shortages to report at BP in Stoke Newington.

 

[Pickman's model]

Today I walked around a Lincolnshire Aldi searching for food shortages scurrying around the shop. To my chagrin I found none. Yesterday I looked for empty shelves in a Morrison's but enjoyed an equal amount of success.

 

[andysays]

Oh, yes. It is totally possible to imagine a better world.

It's a struggle sometimes but we can still try, as a family of four huddle around the last tin of beans as it slowly warms on the last remaining candle...

 

[spitfire]

Anyone been out for a panic tank-fill yet?

Not a panic one but this morning at 10.30 I saw the Premium unleaded was OOS (Shell Bethnal Green), thought about the truck drivers and all the other stuff and filled up just in case. Saw the headlines later and felt simultaneously smug and embarrassed.

I do have a tank full of petrol now though so there is that.

eta: oh fuck I've wandered on to the Brexit thread by mistake.

 

[Pickman's model]

I’ve been moaning about it since sometime in July. It’s been constant here, nobody is starving just always a bit exciting when you go to the supermarket to see what on your list will be available & what won’t. every time for months.

Yeh but you're something of a Jemima come lately on this topic as some of us have been observing the phenomenon since 2018

 

[Pickman's model]

It's a struggle sometimes but we can still try, as a family of four huddle around the last tin of beans as it slowly warms on the last remaining candle...

Tallow or beeswax?

 

[Pickman's model]

I had to go to fill up a load of jerry cans with petrol for work this morning.

No panic buying or shortages to report at BP in Stoke Newington.

What are you burning today?

 

[bimble]

People who at this point are denying that there’s a brexit related issue with the food supply are just curiousities. I like it, flat earth people are also interesting.

 

[andysays]

Today I walked around a Lincolnshire Aldi searching for food shortages scurrying around the shop. To my chagrin I found none. Yesterday I looked for empty shelves in a Morrison's but enjoyed an equal amount of success.

New job, or simply for pleasure?

 

[Badgers]

 

[Pickman's model]

New job, or simply for pleasure?

Holiday. Found everything I needed in the shops including the often elusive flat parsley.