A thank you to Brexiteers.

[bimble]

They've (we've) been putting sewage in the sea for ever in some places. The 'new' story is it can go in rivers too. But farmers have been polluting rivers for ever, too, so I for one am not as pissed off as I think that article wants me to be. Not freshly pissed off anyway. This is more of the same err shit.

it looks pretty simple, in that before this 'unavoidable shortage' you needed to comply with the terms of your permit else you'd be breaking the law and now you do not need to comply with the terms of your permit. Maybe the same shit but its now legal.

[Withdrawn] Water and sewerage company effluent discharges: supply chain failure RPS B2

www.gov.uk

 

[ska invita]

Really?????

absolutely - always worth checking sewage reports before going to the seaside...especially around north kent IME

UKs surfers against sewage have been going for decades now flagging this up

 

[Poot]

The 2006 EU Bathing Waters directive was very stringent.

Bathing water quality - Environment - European Commission

Be interesting to see whether anyone holds the water companies to account in the future but I think we know that they won't. Frothy beaches to return?

 

[Supine]

Frothy beaches to return?

Picture from kent this morning

 

[Fozzie Bear]

Be interesting to see whether anyone holds the water companies to account in the future but I think we know that they won't. Frothy beaches to return?

Everyone hates the water companies and lots more people are having UK holidays now, so there is potential.

 

[Poot]

Picture from kent this morning

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That was quick.

 

[Poot]

Everyone hates the water companies and lots more people are having UK holidays now, so there is potential.

But there is a lot of mutual back-scratching and no one wants to upset the shareholders. This stuff really shouldn't be up to Surfers against Sewage.

 

[Supine]

That was quick.

I was working near one of the water outflows. Very shitty, thanks brexiteers.

 

[TopCat]

It’s like brexit in some peoples heads is some cloaked avenger busily swooping about revealing all the sins of capitalism and then (underpants) having been revealed it’ll get better.

PeakBimble

 

[TopCat]

Any Brexit voters/supporters care to defend this?

It’s the legacy of 80’s privatisation and payment of dividends rather than invest in processing Infrastrucure.

 

[The39thStep]

PeakBimble

The political wing of the Tufty Club

 

[mojo pixy]

Maybe the same shit but its now legal.

[Withdrawn] Water and sewerage company effluent discharges: supply chain failure RPS B2

www.gov.uk

It was legal before IF you bought a permit. It's still only legal IF you have a permit, can prove you've done all you can to source the chemicals you need, have a written agreement from the local water authority, and can meet quite a lot of other conditions. And it's because of covid too, natch.

 

[Fozzie Bear]

But there is a lot of mutual back-scratching and no one wants to upset the shareholders. This stuff really shouldn't be up to Surfers against Sewage.

I think a lot of people want to upset the shareholders. I certainly do and I think you do as well?

 

[brogdale]

It’s the legacy of 80’s privatisation and payment of dividends rather than invest in processing Infrastrucure.

Hard to believe that some folk thought things would be different without the supra state.

 

[xenon]

The political wing of the Tufty Club

She has a point. There is definitely a current of people saying oh well this is just capitalism nothing to do with Brexit. Funny, this stuff wasn’t happening a couple of years ago.
It is possible you know to say, this is a complete shit show, whilst acknowledging perfectly valid reasons for voting Brexit.

That is the fault of the deal, long-standing problems everything. But here we are. Pretending Brexit is irrelevant, and what is currently flowing from that is, well frankly a bit mad however.

 

[TopCat]

She has a point. There is definitely a current of people saying oh well this is just capitalism nothing to do with Brexit. Funny, this stuff wasn’t happening a couple of years ago.
It is possible you know to say, this is a complete shit show, whilst acknowledging perfectly valid reasons for voting Brexit.

That is the fault of the deal, long-standing problems everything. But here we are. Pretending Brexit is irrelevant, and what is currently flowing from that is, well frankly a bit mad.

Overflow shit has never stopped since Bazelgette. It's not Brexit shit.

 

[Raheem]

It was legal before IF you bought a permit. It's still only legal IF you have a permit, can prove you've done all you can to source the chemicals you need, have a written agreement from the local water authority, and can meet quite a lot of other conditions. And it's because of covid too, natch.

Are you trying to say that what's been described in the media as a removal of restrictions is actually the introduction of a range of new restrictions making it a lot more onerous to pollute?

 

[xenon]

bollocks, frankly.

 

[xenon]

You think all these shortages are just happening because of Covid? Come on it’s not credible.

 

[xenon]

Can probably dig up an article from five years ago to show that there was shortages of water treatment chemicals in Swansea or something. That will prove it all.

 

[TopCat]

bollocks, frankly.

You say this want happening two years ago. It was. Overflow sewage due to underinvestment is decades old.

 

[xenon]

Anyway, it didn’t have to be this way. I’m not blaming Brexit voters. As always it is the cunts in charge. We could’ve stayed in the customs union or at least sorted a lot of this out. Were it not for this filth in government. well people that voted for them, yes I do blame them. to borrow badgers phrase, #Toryscum.

 

[TopCat]

Anyway, it didn’t have to be this way. I’m not blaming Brexit voters. As always it is the cunts in charge. We could’ve stayed in the customs union or at least sorted a lot of this out. Were it not for this filth in government. well people that voted for them, yes I do blame them. to borrow badgers phrase, #Toryscum.

Just address your sewage outfall above.

 

[Artaxerxes]

Yeah but we were the dirty man of EUrope b4 we joined, and there was significant improvement in water quality which was largely down to EUropean regulation...but same regulation lead to things like destroying fish if they end beached by receding river flooding, and speaking of flooding treating river silt as trade waste lead to less dredging which lead to more flooding.

Nah the dredging fucks rivers right up, it’s building on flood plains and denuding upper rivers coupled with our increasingly fucked climate that’s led to more flooding

 

[gosub]

Nah the dredging fucks rivers right up, it’s building on flood plains and denuding upper rivers coupled with our increasingly fucked climate that’s led to more flooding

That too but Somerset a couple of years back that was down to not dredging , and not not dredging was down to cost of disposal of river silt

 

[xenon]

Just address your sewage outfall above.
keep the denying the obvious if you like but I’m not joining in.

 

[bimble]

It's not Brexit shit.

This is great cos you’re not just defending the governments move you’re denying that, in their own words, on their own website, they say you can let the sewage flow now if you can’t get the chemicals due to “our new relationship with the EU”.

 

[Badgers]

Sunlit Uplands ahoy

Joe Biden plays down chances of UK-US trade deal

The US president's comments come as he meets Boris Johnson for talks in the White House.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[krtek a houby]

Sunlit Uplands ahoy

Joe Biden plays down chances of UK-US trade deal

The US president's comments come as he meets Boris Johnson for talks in the White House.

www.bbc.co.uk

Every cloud...

Biden also issued a fresh warning to the UK that peace in Northern Ireland must not be jeopardised as a result of complications caused by Brexit.

 

[AmateurAgitator]

I wouldn't want to be deprived of my chance to draw a spunking cock on the ballot!

I just hope your spunking cocks aren't drawn on the voting part of the ballot sheet.

Apparently, a mark in a voting part counts as a vote. I believe it works from the top of the ballot sheet - down.

Or so they said at uni on the Politics and Governance course I took a few years ago.