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Plastic Paddy
This is the mindset I was referring to!
A pre-paid hotel dilemma
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This is the mindset I was referring to!
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
unless its going to get you on some sort of hoteliers shitlist then its really up to two factors
a) how much can you be arsed? You've started a thread here rather than doing it so I'd say maybe 45% arsed?
b) how big hearted are you feeling today? I'd say look up the companies labour practises and profit reports to steel yourself against unwarranted generosity of spirit, this should reduce factor A to about 11% and thus the issue fades away, forgotten like an trip to the dam that never was on snow filled week in this foul year of our lord two thousand and seventeen
a) how much can you be arsed? You've started a thread here rather than doing it so I'd say maybe 45% arsed?
b) how big hearted are you feeling today? I'd say look up the companies labour practises and profit reports to steel yourself against unwarranted generosity of spirit, this should reduce factor A to about 11% and thus the issue fades away, forgotten like an trip to the dam that never was on snow filled week in this foul year of our lord two thousand and seventeen
Idaho
blah blah blah
If the hotel sees a financial value in having an available room, then it's up to them to offer something.
Mumbles274
running from law and the press and the parents
Don't suppose you paid on credit Card and can seek refund through that??
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
Yep, that's the mindset!
Idaho
blah blah blah
I'm not socking it to the man. I'm just trying to squeeze out some value out of a losing hand.Yep, that's the mindset!
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
You can't squeeze any value out of the situation for yourself so you're making it as difficult as possible for anyone else to do so, even if they probably wouldn't anyway. It's a very common mindset. I had lunch with a colleague last week and he didn't finish his chips. Before the waiter cleared the table he mashed the leftovers with his fork, apparently "so the cunts don't sell 'em to someone else".
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hiraethified
I've already said that they can have the fucking room. They haven't bothered replying.
I thought it was worth a discussion here though.
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hiraethified
Why would anyone want to make it easy for a company to make money out of your personal misfortune? They've already got their money in full.You can't squeeze any value out of the situation for yourself so you're making it as difficult as possible for anyone else to do so, even if they probably wouldn't anyway. It's a very common mindset. I had lunch with a colleague last week and he didn't finish his chips. Before the waiter cleared the table he mashed the leftovers with his fork, apparently "so the cunts don't sell 'em to someone else".
Far better to give the room to a homeless person, or someone on low income rather than let a company rake in double the profit for doing nothing.
Throbbing Angel
this is no longer a place of honour
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hiraethified
I've got to check if it's valid. I'll pay more next year if I can claim, mind.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
Nope.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
Well I can't speak for anyone else but I'd do it because I couldn't give a monkey's if they make a few more quid out of it. It's no skin off my nose. I entered into a contract with them to get a product at a lower than usual rate, didn't fulfil my side of it and suffered the totally foreseen consequences. There's been no trickery or skullduggerey and I don't bear the hotel firm any malice. On the other hand by telling them, it might free up a room for someone else, or keep their prices fractionally lower next year etc, etc. Probably not, but the main reason is that to me, the opposite attitude seems a bitter way of dealing with people and it's not the way I've decided to run my life. I know loads of people who'd agree with you though.
For sure, but I suspect that might require a bit more effort than most people would be prepared to go to for a missed booking.
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hiraethified
You seem to be losing any connection with reality here. Making double the profit on my room by selling it twice will have zero impact on their pricing next year. And, as I've already said, I have told them that I'm not coming and they haven't even had the courtesy to reply.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Should have been a poll
Treacle Toes
Time
You should have kept your mouth shut and saved the hotel workers having to clean another room. The hotel wasn't going to lose out as they have their money.
UP THE WORKERS!
Don't listen to Spymaster He clearly enjoys winding you up.
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misfungled
What did you do in the end (or did I miss that part?)
A few years ago I had a non refundable hotel room from booking dot com, the flight was cancelled due to heavy fog. We called them and they said we could use it another time - we ended up staying there two nights later, after a coach and flight from another city.
A few years ago I had a non refundable hotel room from booking dot com, the flight was cancelled due to heavy fog. We called them and they said we could use it another time - we ended up staying there two nights later, after a coach and flight from another city.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
I'm not suggesting that you notifying them will change anything but if everyone did it maybe rooms would be fractionally cheaper. Maybe not but it costs nothing but a few keystrokes to let them know and as I said, it's no skin off my nose.
Well you've only done it today and a response could take 24hrs. I don't think I've ever notified anyone of me being a no-show and not had at least a thank you note back so it'll be interesting to see what you get.
You seem to be taking all this very personally, by the way. So far you've been extremely abrasive with any poster on the thread that's said anything not entirely to your liking.
I'd contact them and tell them I was thinking of not using the room, and would they give me some kind of discretionary refund if I informed them when I'd made up my mind. If they said no then they had their chance. If they gave me so much as a fiver, I'd let them know. Principle of the thing, innit? Their principle about my principal.
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hiraethified
No, it wouldn't. They've already made their profit on the room (in fact, EXTRA profit as there will be no laundry or cleaning bills) and it it is wildly improbable that being able to sell it twice will have the slightest, remotest impact on their hotel-wide pricing for next year. It really is a silly and inaccurate assumption to make.
They were quick to send me several nagging emails asking if I was checking in. Now that I've just gifted them the opportunity of free bonus money, the least they could do is say thanks promptly.
And this is why I put you on ignore, because you're a bullshitter. Please post all these examples of me being "extremely abusive" with all these posters.You seem to be taking all this very personally, by the way. So far you've been extremely abrasive with any poster on the thread that's said anything not entirely to your liking.
Truth is that you were the first poster to inject an unneeded personal tone earlier on and were rightly picked up on it (posts #13 and #14).
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
Seriously, I'm not winding him up and I don't think there's any fair way that you could possibly read that into what I've posted here. It's a very common dilemma in one form or another and different people deal with it in different ways.
Treacle Toes
Time
Perhaps you two should simply give each other a peck on the mistletoe thread. That will sort your differences out.
Go on, you know you want to.
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hiraethified
Amen to that!
I was hoping he may have moved on from his time on mutual ignore but it seems that he hasn't changed at all. Oh well. I'm not having him disrupting threads with his childishness so I'll just ignore him again.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
That's just not how business profits work but it's such an unimportant point that I'll let you have it if it means that much to you.
I agree.
I said abrasive, not abusive. I was referring to your tone with me, your post #24 to Saul Goodman, and #40 to Dotski.
Your theory is certainly not the way modern commercial pricing works. Pricing on a widespread retail good is based on a thorough data-based analysis of price elasticity, not cost-plus. Reducing the baseline expense just makes the entire elasticity curve more profitable, it doesn't move its peak.
