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Worst film ever?

Dubversion said:
precisely. Beastmaster 75 doesn't occur to me to nominate as the worst film ever because nobody thinks it's anything but, it's a non-film (well it doesn't actually exist, but you get my point). Whereas - yes, Shakespeare In Love, or American Beauty are both, IMO, disgusting depressing empty horrible pieces of shit that were adored when released. That DOES bother me.

Exactly. I came out of Shakespeare in Love with the other two I had seen it with saying how great it was, and I couldn't stop thinking about what vacuous, self-satisfied shite it was.

But I loved American Beauty :p
 
danny la rouge said:
It's a dreary, dreary movie. A 14 hour hovis ad.

I agree. I found Bladerunner fucking shit. And I have enjoyed quite a lot of films with a similar theme; I loved Fifth Element, for instance. I just found Bladerunner to have no sense of cohesion at all, it was, as you say, like a long advert. A constant stream of nice images with no real story. It was like a giant trailer for itself.

The soundtrack is cool though.
 
I suppose what I find so boring about these "Worst film ever" threads (and they just come round and round again on internet forums everywhere all the time), is that they always go along the same lines and always mention the same handful of mediocre/mildly controversial love/hate films and there is a lot of gloating in trashing films that have many admirers.

At least I'm surprised nobody's mentioned everybody's favourite punching bag Titanic yet.
 
See, I thought Titanic was pretty excellent for what it was. It was a film about a star crossed couple who die aboard the ship which is doomed to crash. Everyone knows this going into it.

And for what it set out to be, I thought Titanic achieved it near perfectly.
 
RenegadeDog said:
I agree. I found Bladerunner fucking shit. And I have enjoyed quite a lot of films with a similar theme; I loved Fifth Element, for instance. I just found Bladerunner to have no sense of cohesion at all, it was, as you say, like a long advert. A constant stream of nice images with no real story. It was like a giant trailer for itself.

The soundtrack is cool though.


fifth element better than bladerunner?

this thread is not for you sir!
 
RenegadeDog said:
See, I thought Titanic was pretty excellent for what it was. It was a film about a star crossed couple who die aboard the ship which is doomed to crash. Everyone knows this going into it.

And for what it set out to be, I thought Titanic achieved it near perfectly.

I quite like Titanic for babysitting my mum when she comes to visit. I slip it into the DVD player and sneak off to the pub with my mates as she's absolutely mesmerised by it.
 
well then, whatever the weaknesses of the thread in terms of the criteria, it really has shown that there is weight to the old adage, 'each to his own.'

it has been remarkable the differences in tastes and opinions. some good films on here that people have been disgusted with, and some pieces of dross that people have defended with vigour


IMO
 
jugularvein said:
well then, whatever the weaknesses of the thread in terms of the criteria, it really has shown that there is weight to the old adage, 'each to his own.'

it has been remarkable the differences in tastes and opinions. some good films on here that people have been disgusted with, and some pieces of dross that people have defended with vigour

IMO

True - but that is what makes it a much more interesting thread than one in which everyone nominates 'Police Academy 9' or whatever.
 
danny la rouge said:
Everyone did, didn't they? Certainly people with taste did. Most people who didn't walk out were actually asleep.
Actually I walked out because I took ethical exception to the woman refusing to sleep with Harrison Ford until he started hitting her.

Other than that, it's enormously imaginative with a fair few memorable scenes.
 
"the woman refusing to sleep with Harrison Ford until he started hitting her"

I didn't like that bit either. It's necessary for Ford to be immature in his emotions, just like the other replicants, but it could have been conveyed in other ways. Apart from that and one other slightly dubious scene, I think Bladerunner is quite a good film.
 
Donna Ferentes said:
Actually I walked out because I took ethical exception to the woman refusing to sleep with Harrison Ford until he started hitting her.

Other than that, it's enormously imaginative with a fair few memorable scenes.

It's not necessarely an action that is supposed to be condoned. Even worse he shoots a woman/replicant in the back later on. Deckard is not the hero but an anti-hero and it could even be argued that he is the villain for much of the film. One of the things I like about the Blade Runner is that in line with the film noirs it emulates, with exception of Rachel all the characters are morally corrupt or ambiguous.
 
Reno said:
It's not necessarely an action that is supposed to be condoned.
I know - that's why I didn't walk out on subsequent occasions! That said, I'm still a little iffy about it.

Ridley Scott eh? Used to be talented.
 
Donna Ferentes said:
I know - that's why I didn't walk out on subsequent occasions! That said, I'm still a little iffy about it.

Ridley Scott eh? Used to be talented.

Yep, two classics at the start of his career and not much else to get excited about. Mind you, even his duds are better than most of the crimes against celluloid his brother keeps inflicting on the world. Man on Fire probably does qualify as one of the worst films I have ever seen.
 
I can't even be bothered to watch the Crusades one despite the fact it was filmed round here and my girlfriend was an extra.

(Well, all right, she was cut from the final version, but she might be in the additional scenes...)
 
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