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Woolwich soldier killed (was "Did cops just shoot 2 dead in woolwich?")

It's in south london & you can make of that what you will

means nowt really Pickman's I'm about 300 miles north and only been to London on short visits a handful of times in my life. i've no idea if it's bad or not just picking up what some have said on twitter and that.
 
Twitter report saying "locals heard no jihad comments. BBC claiming they filmed the incident, other eyewitnesses say they asked to have photos taken.
 
Very excessive use of the word "calm" on the bbc news.

I'm getting the impression their worried about immediate violent response against the muslim community aswell as further supposed Muslim attacks.
 
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I'm possibly being naive, but two guys kill another guy and the government is holding an emergency meeting - seems a bit OTT to me...

The media coverage is nuts, too.
Unless scene and victim plus whatever lead them to believe it's an attack on armed forces, presume sort of meeting would be procedure in such a case.
 
Just found out about this. May be jihadis - but I wtf does 'of muslim apperance' mean? - full 'tacheless beard and robes - or a bit dusky looking. Also witnesses reporting them being heard to shout 'allah akbar' - reminds me of the DE Menzies shooting - muslim looking, witnesses saying he rna when challenged and had a rucksack.

Attacked with a machete ain't the normal jihadi MO - more like gangster.

I'm not prepared to take the line being spun by the government - its too soon for them to bigging up the terror attack angle when they cant know all the facts. My 'chinny reckon' muscle is twitching somewhat.
 
whatever happened it's fucking grim stuff this, think I'll switch news off.
I'm at work, so I've only seen it on here, not the telly. However I know what you mean, some things feel just so horribly intrusive you don't want to watch rolling news coverage.
 
Unless scene and victim plus whatever lead them to believe it's an attack on armed forces, presume sort of meeting would be procedure in such a case.
Mm, p'raps, but if that were the case seems odd they'd attack one guy right outside the barracks, where presumably there were many more soldiers and they could have made much more of an impact.
 
I lived in Woolwich dockyard for four years about 10 years ago, it was 'supposed' to be rough but I found it very quiet. I used to be a keen runner back then and I had a favourite route through several parks and would return home down that hill where the barracks were, can't believe it, it's usually so very quiet around there.
 
I have to say, I'm mildly impressed/surprised they weren't shot dead.

Also, obvious but didn't occur to me: they got sent to separate hospitals. They think of everything these emergency services!

Nothing impressive about it, but somewhat surprising. When police shoot at you, they are supposed to kill you. Someone surviving means the shooter probably messed up. 2 people surviving is just weird.
 
I'm at work, so I've only seen it on here, not the telly. However I know what you mean, some things feel just so horribly intrusive you don't want to watch rolling news coverage.
It's an interesting point. I have an inbuilt curiosity and need for detail, which is enhanced by the fact it's taken place in my area, but it does feel a little ghoulish.
 
Just found out about this. May be jihadis - but I wtf does 'of muslim apperance' mean? - full 'tacheless beard and robes - or a bit dusky looking. Also witnesses reporting them being heard to shout 'allah akbar' - reminds me of the DE Menzies shooting - muslim looking, witnesses saying he rna when challenged and had a rucksack.

Attacked with a machete ain't the normal jihadi MO - more like gangster.

I'm not prepared to take the line being spun by the government - its too soon for them to bigging up the terror attack angle when they cant know all the facts. My 'chinny reckon' muscle is twitching somewhat.
You can listen to the bloke himself later.

"We swear by almighty Allah we will never stop fighting you," he said
 
Mm, p'raps, but if that were the case seems odd they'd attack one guy right outside the barracks, where presumably there were many more soldiers and they could have made much more of an impact.
Yep, could speculate that they wanted to keep it in street as more visible rather than charge in barracks and disappear from view (and Planet Earth no doubt) in short order. But who knows?
 
Don't think I would have carried on with a phone cam as a guy with a knife in his bloody walked towards me...

Some amazingly brave women there
 
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Exclusive: Man with bloodied hands at Woolwich scene
ITV News has obtained footage of a man with bloodied hands and carrying knives speaking into a camera in Woolwich.
He made a series of political statements.
"We swear by almighty Allah we will never stop fighting you," he said

Fucking hell...
 
(Before reading/hearing about this I downloaded Machete to watch tonight. I think I might give it a miss)

Terrible thing to happen to the cadet, a most dreadful way to die for whatever reason.
 
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