Woolwich soldier killed (was "Did cops just shoot 2 dead in woolwich?")

[krink]

i think the early reports mentioned the words 'soldier' 'beheading' 'machete' and this has clearly influenced much of the muslim terror speculation.

 

[bi0boy]

people seem to be remonstrating with each other..

I found that photo very odd. A crowd of people standing around arguing over an injured/dead person, two in hi-viz but none immediately apparent as police/medics...

I'm guessing the guy in the grey top is a cop, because he's standing over the body after it's been covered up.

 

[twistedAM]

Robinson's said they were 'of muslim appearance'.

How in giddy fuck?

How the fuck has that knobhead still got a job? BBC News really is full of twats.
I'm watching Sky and it's a bad state of affairs when I have to do that in preference to the national broadcaster.

 

[cdg]

No.

Well that's a new one to me.

 

[Corax]

i think the early reports mentioned the words 'soldier' 'beheading' 'machete' and this has clearly influenced much of the muslim terror speculation.

But COBRA are meeting! And Nick Robinson said so!!!!

 

[brogdale]

I was giving you the chance to explain your post.

But if you don't want to take it, I'll assume that you believe that because a journalist has said something, and the immediate official response assumes something, then you believe with absolute 100% certainty that it must be true.

Sorry to hear that you've never seen the news before.

I listen to the news alot, and I am able to recognise when the state latches onto the concept of the assination of a member of the armed forces by Muslim 'terrorists'. This has legs, and the fact that the state media are ramping it is significant.

 

[Corax]

I listen to the news alot, and I am able to recognise when the state latches onto the concept of the assination of a member of the armed forces by Muslim 'terrorists'. This has legs, and the fact that the state media are ramping it is significant.

And what the giddy fuck do you think the response so far is based on brogdale?

Huge pinch of salt to all reports at this point, IMO. Eyewitnesses are shit.

Pinch of salt does not mean 'wrong', by the way. Google it if needs be.

 

[ItWillNeverWork]

I listen to the news alot, and I am able to recognise when the state latches onto the concept of the assination of a member of the armed forces by Muslim 'terrorists'. This has legs, and the fact that the state media are ramping it is significant.

So what makes you think it's not true?

 

[Balbi]

I bet Julian Assange is wondering whether he'll ever get to be centre of attention again

 

[Sweet FA]

Don't panic everyone, Theresa May is convening a COBRA meeting.

Thank fuck. Now we'll get this shit sorted.

"You're the disease and I'm the cure."

 

[D'wards]

Thank fuck. Now we'll get this shit sorted.

"You're the disease and I'm the cure."

Bah, was just about to post this

 

[lizzieloo]

Commander Simon Letchford, speaking in Woolwich tonight, said:
"I am here to give you an update about the incident that has unfolded here in Woolwich this afternoon and to give you further details of the situation and an outline of the facts as we understand them at this time.
"This is at a very early stage and as such I will provide you with what information I am able to.
"At approx 1420 we were called to reports of an assault in John Wilson Street, Woolwich where one man was being assaulted by two other men. "
"A number of weapons were reportedly being used in the attack, and this included reports of a firearm.
"Officers including local Greenwich officers arrived at the scene and shortly after firearms officers arrived on the scene.
"On their arrival at the scene they found a man, who was later pronounced dead.
"At this early stage I am unable to provide any further information about the man who has died.
"Two men, who we believe from early reports to have been carrying weapons, were shot by police.
"They were taken to separate London hospitals, they are receiving treatment for their injuries.
"I can understand that this incident will cause community concerns, and I would like to reiterate that we are investigating what has taken place today.
"The MPS will investigate the circumstances that led to a man to lose his life and the IPCC, as is routine, will investigate the circumstances in which police discharged their weapons.
"There will continue to be an increased police presence in this area, and the surrounding areas this evening.
"That presence will continue as long as is needed.
"I am asking people to remain calm, and avoid unnecessary speculation.
"I will update you again as soon as I am in a position to do so."

http://www.newsshopper.co.uk/news/10436107.Police_called_to_Woolwich__shooting____live_updates/

 

[wiskey]

"Allah Akbar shouted"

I. was. joking!

 

[krink]

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[brogdale]

And what the giddy fuck do you think the response so far is based on brogdale?

Pinch of salt does not mean 'wrong', by the way. Google it if needs be.

Not sure I'm getting your point tbh. I know no more than anyone else watching this emerge. But...if the state feels it has a (gruesome) execution of a soldier the fall-out will be significant.

 

[ddraig]

I used to live next to where this happened, in the old Thomas Spencer block.

me too!

 

[DotCommunist]

But COBRA are meeting! And Nick Robinson said so!!!!

Nick Robinson, the liar of lindsay and all round slapheaded tory fuckwit

 

[Mr.Bishie]

So after 7 pages of shite, does anyone know what happened yet?

 

[TruXta]

So after 7 pages of shite, does anyone know what happened yet?

1 person dead, the attackers in hospital. That's it really.

 

[brogdale]

So after 7 pages of shite, does anyone know what happened yet?

An excuse to infringe yet more civil liberities...perhaps?

 

[Firky]

Been out all afternoon and just heard about this on Facebook.

 

[Buckaroo]

So after 7 pages of shite, does anyone know what happened yet?

A man wearing a bobble hat chopped somebody's head off and his friend took pictures. Fact.

 

[Mr.Bishie]

1 person dead, the attackers in hospital. That's it really.

Glad someone knows.

 

[TruXta]

Glad someone knows.

What's the point you're trying to make here?

 

[krink]

a man is dead and two others injured. dead man killed in some kind of attack and armed police shot the other two people.

 

[xes]

I don't think brogdale is saying that this didn't happen, or that how it went down is any different to what's actually been reported, it's just the response that the media will have, will take the form of spin, and use this to further some agenda of some kind. This isn't really an outlandish statement IMO.

 

[Mr.Bishie]

What's the point you're trying to make here?

No point whatsoever.

 

[brogdale]

What's the point you're trying to make here?

Theme of the thread.

 

[Corax]

Not sure I'm getting your point tbh. I know no more than anyone else watching this emerge. But...if the state feels it has a (gruesome) execution of a soldier the fall-out will be significant.

Quite simple.

I opined that all should be taken with a pinch of salt at this stage (terrorists/muslims/alluh akbhar/etc) as eyewitnesses are notoriously shite. In addition, early reports of dramatic events such as this are almost always fairly flawed as people get overexcited and speculation gets confused with fact.

You replied by saying that Nick Robinson had tweeted that it is:

being treated as a serious terrorist attack by Islamist extremists on the streets of Britain.

apparently also going to the trouble of bolding 'Islamist' (and also 'Britain' for some reason... )

Which was either a totally random non-sequiteur, or intended as some sort of refutation of my point.

Which it's not.

Hope that clarifies!

 

[lizzieloo]

So after 7 pages of shite, does anyone know what happened yet?

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