Woolwich soldier killed (was "Did cops just shoot 2 dead in woolwich?")

[wiskey]

tbf if I was going to go and hack someone's head off with a machete I'd probably take crack, even if I'd never done it before. Or PCP.

 

[TruXta]

They should have posted on Twitter?

I meant shout some slogans or whatever - make it know what they were up to.

 

[D'wards]

Shame they didn't go after the EDL.

So you support murder by religious extremists on EDL? You would side with the extremists on this point?

 

[JimW]

You'd think if they were Islamic terrorists they'd have the fucking nous to do some relevant messaging no?

That can be planned to come after, I suppose. We shall see.

 

[Casually Red]

CRACK

nobody else attacked on a busy street ,only soldier and cops some time later, doesnt sound like crack rampage to me .

 

[wiskey]

I meant shout some slogans or whatever - make it know what they were up to.

Allah Akbar?

 

[Lord Camomile]

I think it means 1 dead, And two injured(the attackers) and one of the injured is serious.

Yeah, that's what I'm going with, just slightly ambiguous reporting.

 

[TruXta]

That can be planned to come after, I suppose. We shall see.

Sure. Wait and see indeed. Fucking horrible tragedy either way.

 

[TruXta]

Allah Akbar?

Allahu akbar.

 

[SpookyFrank]

RTA, squaddie gets arsey, crackheads jump out and gets choppy...

Possibly.

Stranger things have happened.

 

[wiskey]

Allahu akbar.

my apologies not something I ever intend to use personally.

 

[TruXta]

my apologies not something I ever intend to use personally.

No probs.

 

[Casually Red]

RTA, squaddie gets arsey, crackheads jump out and gets choppy...

Possibly.

any reports ive seen say the squaddie was on foot, rammed by car first . Sounds more like an ambush right outside the barracks .

 

[telbert]

Good riddance then.

Stupid fucking cunt.

 

[Balbi]

Machete don't tweet

 

[xenon]

It sounds planned from the target to the action to the reaction if the outlines above are accurate. Am i really the only one thinking about muslim/political radicals here? I can't be.

No, I thought same based on report on 5 Live. Seems the Help For Heros guy was ran over. The 2 Occupants of the car got out and chopped him to death with a machetti / machettis. Then waited at the scene for Police to respond.
Armed Police turn up. The 2 asailents threaten them, possibly charged at them and are shot. Status unknown.

The reporter did stress this was what they'd gathered at the time but may not be entirely accurate.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

any reports ive seen say the squaddie was on foot, rammed by car first . Sounds more like an ambush right outside the barracks .

RTA can be car vs. pedestrian too.

I really have no more idea than you. But 2 cracked up wankers with knives and guns run in to someone, that someone protests robustly, cracknuts go loopy. Sounds more than possible. (was goona say reasonable, but thought better of it )

 

[Casually Red]

tbf if I was going to go and hack someone's head off with a machete I'd probably take crack, even if I'd never done it before. Or PCP.

jihadists going into battle are well known to get off their tits on various opiates first

 

[krink]

how do we know the dead guy is a soldier? was he in uniform or something (I may have missed that bit)?

 

[stuff_it]

So you support murder by religious extremists on EDL? You would side with the extremists on this point?

It's more of a philosophical response. If you were told that one of the two people in front of you had to be killed and you could pick between an EDL supporter and a serving soldier which would you pick?

Clearly it's not ok to go killing people in the street for religious or any other reasons, but assuming that someone was going to be killed I would prefer it if it meant one less EDL, yes.

how do we know the dead guy is a soldier? was he in uniform or something (I may have missed that bit)?

Police are claiming it wasn't, but it sounds like he could have been mistaken for one, being near a barracks and wearing a 'Help for Heroes' shirt.

 

[wiskey]

jihadists going into battle are well known to get off their tits on various opiates first

I didn't know that, but I guess they feel like I do, that they need something

 

[cdg]

how do we know the dead guy is a soldier? was he in uniform or something (I may have missed that bit)?

Confirmed by the MoD.

 

[stuff_it]

Machete don't tweet

They need the new iMachete.

 

[Casually Red]

how do we know the dead guy is a soldier? was he in uniform or something (I may have missed that bit)?

the local MP has given a number of interviews claiming that hes been told this by both the local police commander and the barracks commander . He was killed just 2 minutes away from the barracks entrance . Looks pretty certain he was .

 

[treelover]

people seem to be remonstrating with each other..

 

[wiskey]

The eyewitness on R4 is saying the assailants were both black.

 

[cdg]

The eyewitness on R4 is saying the assailants were both black.

ooh quick let's accuse them of being crackheads.

 

[krink]

i've seen two witness statements saying theyu heard he was a soldier and the mp's statement. haven't seen the mod statement you got a link please cdg?

 

[treelover]

One witness, identified as James, said he and his partner saw two black men attack a young man aged around 20 in a Help for Heroes T-shirt with kitchen knives like he was "a piece of meat".
He told LBC Radio: "They were hacking at this poor guy, literally.
"They were hacking at him, chopping him, cutting him.
"These two guys were crazed. They were just animals. They dragged him from the pavement and dumped his body in the middle of the road and left his body there."
He said that after the "horrendous" attack, the two men, in their 20s, just stood around, waving knives and a gun, even asking people nearby to take pictures of them "as if they wanted to be on TV or something".
He continued: "They were oblivious to anything, they were more worried about having their photo taken, running up and down the road.
"They had no intention of running off or leaving or anything. In my opinion, they were waiting for the police to arrive to be shot by the police. That's the only thing I can think. It's horrendous what they were doing to that guy."
Some "brave" women tried to shield the man on the ground from them, he added.
He also said that it was 20 minutes before armed police arrived at the scene.
"When the armed police came flying around the corner, the man with the beanie hat, the tall guy, he charged at the police vehicle.
"A shot was fired by the other guy with the gun. Six shots were fired, both men went down and we now know they are dead as well."

from News Shopper, awful awful..

 

[wiskey]

ooh quick let's accuse them of being crackheads.

I haven't accused anyone of being a crackhead I said I would like to be on crack if I was going to do that