Woolwich soldier killed (was "Did cops just shoot 2 dead in woolwich?")

[Fozzie Bear]

The Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC) has been made aware by Metropolitan Police Service of an incident in Woolwich, south London. IPCC investigators have been deployed to the scene and to the post-incident process.
The IPCC has declared this as an independent investigation.

 

[8115]

It sounds planned from the target to the action to the reaction if the outlines above are accurate. Am i really the only one thinking about muslim/political radicals here? I an't be.

I'd be surprised that the news aren't already hinting at this. Plus a machete really isn't the weapon of choice for terrorists I don't think.

theres other witnesses claiming the armed cops didnt arrive for almost 20 minutes, which could mean these guys made no attempt to flee the scene . Sounds nuts .

I know. Strange.

 

[JimW]

It sounds planned from the target to the action to the reaction if the outlines above are accurate. Am i really the only one thinking about muslim/political radicals here? I an't be.

Certainly going for the cops after fits with that, though on something spectacular too as well i suppose.

 

[Balbi]

That was fucking quick. Someone's got the Jean Charles shakes about the whole thing.

 

[Lord Camomile]

Reports saying two guys attacked one guy, but also 1 dead, 2 injured, 1 seriously injured Are they just saying that one of the two people injured was seriously injured, or are they reporting on four different people, in which case, who's the fourth person?

 

[butchersapron]

Certainly going for the cops after fits with that, though on something spectacular too as well i suppose.

Then again, lots of early doors stuff turns out to be rubbish.

 

[Casually Red]

It sounds planned from the target to the action to the reaction if the outlines above are accurate. Am i really the only one thinking about muslim/political radicals here? I an't be.

thats exactly what im thinking

along with an attempt at martyrdom by not even bothering to leg it afterwards . Looks that way to me . Just 2 minutes from woolwich barracks .

 

[JimW]

... Plus a machete really isn't the weapon of choice for terrorists I don't think.

...

Maybe Internet-inspired freelancers. Entirely different context i know, but Islamists in Xinjiang year or so back drove van into a bunch of PAP squaddies out for their morning run in formation then leapt out and went for as many as they could with cleavers.

 

[T & P]

If so, EDL are going to have a fucking field day.

 

[JimW]

Then again, lots of early doors stuff turns out to be rubbish.

Yep, speculation only of course.

 

[wiskey]

deliberate 'death by cop' is rare here though isn't it?

 

[stuff_it]

It sounds planned from the target to the action to the reaction if the outlines above are accurate. Am i really the only one thinking about muslim/political radicals here? I an't be.

Hard to call but I admit it sounds as though they weren't bothered about the publicity. Normally gang stuff isn't so public.

I'd be surprised that the news aren't already hinting at this. Plus a machete really isn't the weapon of choice for terrorists I don't think.



I know. Strange.

Dunno, beheadings with machete's are pretty popular on video.

 

[8115]

If so, EDL are going to have a fucking field day.

Fuck 'em.

 

[5t3IIa]

If Boyadee goes on the media, then the U.S hegemony of laughing at black men reporting crimes they have witnessed to the media will be broken, as we get our own black guy to laugh at. About time too.

Laugh with, I though

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

theres other witnesses claiming the armed cops didnt arrive for almost 20 minutes, which could mean these guys made no attempt to flee the scene . Sounds nuts .

Crack.

 

[bi0boy]

Seems the cops didn't kill either of them. I suppose if they'd been armed with chair legs rather than a gun and a knife they'd be dead for sure.

 

[stuff_it]

If so, EDL are going to have a fucking field day.

Shame they didn't go after the EDL.

Crack.

Nah, or it would happen all the time in Nottingham.

 

[Balbi]

Laugh with, I though

At. There's a whole series of memes about the lol worthy black guy talking to the media. Depressingly.

 

[SpookyFrank]

deliberate 'death by cop' is rare here though isn't it?

Rarer than some places, still not rare enough. The problem is not so much the number of people killed by cops but the repeated failure to bring the coppers responsible for unlawful killings to account.

 

[Casually Red]

I'd be surprised that the news aren't already hinting at this. Plus a machete really isn't the weapon of choice for terrorists I don't think.

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Its perfect for a beheading, which some Islamic types are well into . And if you see some of the piss poor stuff the British ones end up attempting to do its the type of scenario that could easily happen .

I know. Strange

not strange at all . To behead a British soldier in broad daylight, hang around for armed police to arrive, and then attack armed police with machetes is suicidal . A beheading of a soldier followed by an attempt at martyrdom, 2 guys allegedly telling onlookers to take their photos ..wanting to be famous . Points one direction in my view .

 

[marty21]

Its perfect for a beheading, which some Islamic types are well into . And if you see some of the piss poor stuff the British ones end up attempting to do its the type of scenario that could easily happen .



not strange at all . To behead a British soldier in broad daylight, hang around for armed police to arrive, and then attack armed police with machetes is suicidal . A beheading of a soldier followed by an attempt at martyrdom, 2 guys allegedly telling onlookers to take their photos ..wanting to be famous . Points one direction in my view .

very strange - but there would have been people taking pictures anyway - they wouldn't need to be asked

 

[TruXta]

You'd think if they were Islamic terrorists they'd have the fucking nous to do some relevant messaging no?

 

[stuff_it]

You'd think if they were Islamic terrorists they'd have the fucking nous to do some relevant messaging no?

They should have posted on Twitter?

 

[SpookyFrank]

You'd think if they were Islamic terrorists they'd have the fucking nous to do some relevant messaging no?

Anyone would think you had to be really stupid to become a suicidal Islamic terrorist.

 

[Casually Red]

Crack.

the thought crossed my mind , but as it looks like the only people theyve attacked either belong to the British army or police they sound like very discriminating crack heads

 

[5t3IIa]

At. There's a whole series of memes about the lol worthy black guy talking to the media. Depressingly.

I saw Reddit discussing it - they are generally on the side of what is good and right

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Its perfect for a beheading, which some Islamic types are well into . And if you see some of the piss poor stuff the British ones end up attempting to do its the type of scenario that could easily happen .



not strange at all . To behead a British soldier in broad daylight, hang around for armed police to arrive, and then attack armed police with machetes is suicidal . A beheading of a soldier followed by an attempt at martyrdom, 2 guys allegedly telling onlookers to take their photos ..wanting to be famous . Points one direction in my view .

CRACK

 

[cdg]

Reports saying two guys attacked one guy, but also 1 dead, 2 injured, 1 seriously injured Are they just saying that one of the two people injured was seriously injured, or are they reporting on four different people, in which case, who's the fourth person?

I think it means 1 dead, And two injured(the attackers) and one of the injured is serious.

 

[Lord Camomile]

Right, I'm off home then. Might go through Plumstead rather than Woolwich tonight

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

the thought crossed my mind , but as it looks like the only people theyve attacked either belong to the British army or police they sound like very discriminating crack heads

RTA, squaddie gets arsey, crackheads jump out and gets choppy...

Possibly.