Who else worships Chicago house?

[Frumious B.]

I like all sorts of stuff, from classical to thrash metal to Abba...even some jazz and hip-hop...but is there anything finer than the Chicago house classics...especially Let the Music Use You? If I was on a desert island and had to listen to one track on repeat for the rest of my life, it would be this. Has there ever been anything this good in human history? Or am I just showing my age? Starts at 06:44

 

[ska invita]

Just discovered this
very Big
so catchy, utterly drilled into my head after just one listen


also just getting up to speed on Ron hardy and his edits

 

[souljacker]

Poor Ron Hardy. If he'd lived, he would be mentioned in the same breath as Knuckles and Jefferson.

 

[souljacker]

This, for instance. One of my fave house bass lines of all time.

 

[ManchesterBeth]

like i said in another thread.



proper sleaze.

 

[ska invita]

Poor Ron Hardy. If he'd lived, he would be mentioned in the same breath as Knuckles and Jefferson.

I think in this day and age his legacy and rep is right up there tbh. FOr kids today these are all jsut Old People

Please post more.... Im on an MP3 download mission and am looking for bangers

 

[ska invita]

This, for instance. One of my fave house bass lines of all time.

thats sounds like he made it one the same set up once Larry Heard had finished washing machine and gone for a cup of tea
and thats a good thing

 

[ManchesterBeth]

 

[souljacker]

The Frankie Knuckles/Jamie Principle match up produced a lot of gems.

 

[souljacker]

And of course, who could forget this:

 

[stavros]

I need to explore this genre more, as this is excellent;

 

[ska invita]

Here's one thats been in my head since coming across it over the weekend - Cajmere (Green Velvet) - Let Me Be - 1992 Chicago / one of his first tunes / pure home-made house music simplicity but is packed with what i take to be gay-acceptance frustration / general non conformity anger - from the heart freak out music

Spoiler

and the track after is special too - upfront gay love vocals set off with some twisted chord changes
Believe in Me

Spoiler

amazing side of 12" IMO

I didnt know anything about Green Velvet till quite recently - caught him in Clapham Common at something on there once by chance - made a big impression (a real performer live, doing lots of live vocals - Flash went off! Big tune ) - heard Perculator a few years after, and only really checked out his back catalogue/dj sets a bit this year.... these 91/92 Cajmere records are something else...kind of dated on one level, but full of attitude

 

[Fez909]

Love the darkness of this tune

Spoiler: bam bam - where's your child

Still sounds fresh, and every time I've heard it played out, it's gone mental.

 

[Fez909]

On a lighter note, I can't get enough of this:

Spoiler: steve silk hurley - the word is love

 

[Ted Striker]

I can give or take most Adonis stuff (tbh, forgot it was him, always Charles B in my head), but few records make me do my bollocks as much as when this comes on


Stripped back monster - get goosebumps every because I always use it to tee up something really special

 

[ska invita]

On a lighter note, I can't get enough of this:

Spoiler: steve silk hurley - the word is love

just posted the mousse t (for the heads) remix of that in the garage thread the other day - check it out - i think it might be better than the original

 

[ska invita]

Seems Chicago house was very much a gay scene - is that the case with Detroit? Are any of the Belleville Three (Juan Atkins, Derrick May and Kevin Saunderson) gay? ive never thought about it before....

 

[Fez909]

just posted the mousse t (for the heads) remix of that in the garage thread the other day - check it out - i think it might be better than the original

Listening now. It's a lovely track but the original 'wins' hands down for me.

Seems Chicago house was very much a gay scene - is that the case with Detroit? Are any of the Belleville Three (Juan Atkins, Derrick May and Kevin Saunderson) gay? ive never thought about it before....

Not that I know of, but it wouldn't surprise me. Detroit seems a much 'tougher' city and I get the feeling that it would be harder to come out there. Not saying it was/is easy in Chicago, either. I think Chicago tops Detroit for murders and violent crime now so it's no picnic over there in Chi-town

 

[shifting gears]

Seems Chicago house was very much a gay scene - is that the case with Detroit? Are any of the Belleville Three (Juan Atkins, Derrick May and Kevin Saunderson) gay? ive never thought about it before....

No, they're all straight. I think the 'scene' in Detroit had its share of gay followers but was much less gay-centric than the scenes in Chicago and New York, where most of the clubs, dj's and major players were all gay. I 'think' Ken Collier (early Detroit tastemaker dj and one often name-checked by later generations) was gay; other than that I can only think of Aaron Carl, who came much later, but there are surely plenty of others. What Detroit did have in common with Chicago was a thriving youth dance-music scene, with teenagers from different suburbs mixing at parties, some well off, some poor. There were 2 main gangs, the "Jits" and the "Preps" - a very crude analogy might be with Mods and Rockers, at least with regards to style, the Preps favouring a preppy smarter look whereas the Jits were much more ghetto. Dan Sicko's book "Techno Rebels" book is pretty good on all this kinda stuff, although been many years since I read it.

 

[Fez909]

This is a good description of the different influences on Detroit's electronic music scene:



from 33 Revolutions Per Minute: A History of Protest Songs.

Sounds an interesting book.

 

[ska invita]

it's no picnic over there in Chi-town

 

[Fez909]

Hadn't heard of that. sounds interesting. you seen it?

 

[shifting gears]

Thought I'd add a tune, an all-time fave, used to change hands for silly money but got a reissue not too many years back... all that is good about house music is found within

 

[ska invita]

Hadn't heard of that. sounds interesting. you seen it?

it got bad reviews, but i dont trust film reviewers much
i think the uk cinema release is in early 2017, though in the US it came out earlier in 2016?
though its bound to be online
funny id kind of written it off in my head but maybe its worth giving a try to? at least its having a go at something

 

[ska invita]

My first exposure to Chicago (apart from TOTP) was my mate who i used to sit in in Maths lent me this MEGA (lol) double tape pack in 88:

Various - The Greatest Hits Of House
Four side of tape, subdivided:
UK House
S.O.U.L. (The Sound Of Underground London)
US House (Chicago’s In The House)
Deep House

The UK tape was a bit shit, especially compared to the US tape:

US House (Chicago’s In The House)
Jungle Brothers I'll House You
C2 –Marshall Jefferson Move Your Body
C3 –Farley "Jackmaster" Funk Love Can't Turn Around
C4 –2 Puerto Ricans, A Blackman And A Dominican Do It Properly (Fierce Club Mix)Remix – Robert Clivillés
C5 –Adonis The Poke
C6 –The Todd Terry Project Bango (To The Batmobile)
C7 –Raze Jack The Groove
C8 –Chip E. And House People Godfather Of House

Deep House
D1 –Nitro Deluxe This Brutal House
D2 –Fast Eddie* Acid Thunder
D3 –Nebula (2) Deep Space
D4 –Sterling Void Runaway
D5 –Housemaster Boyz And The Rude Boy Of House* House Nation
D6 –Adonis Do It Properly (No Way Back)
D7 –Terrajacks Houseplan
D8 –Drum And Bass I Love U

I made a copy of that tape and played it to death for years after- found a vinyl version one day in a charity shop too! The thing is lots of the tracks have short radio edits, which have now become the definitive mixes in my head. Anyhow, the Chicago tunes win on that tape hands down (NY in second place) - I didnt even know what was what at the time, but looking at that list now...all about Chicago

I love how a city can have its own sound, even once a style has gone international....

From that tape this is one tune I havent heard anyone play since (in oldskool sets and the like)- nice keys and vocal piece
Sterling Void - Runaway

Spoiler

 

[Beats & Pieces]

This is a good description of the different influences on Detroit's electronic music scene:

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from 33 Revolutions Per Minute: A History of Protest Songs.

Sounds an interesting book.

The most interesting aspect of this is the recognition of the potential offered by technology, which could never quite escape the European antecedents as manifested by most significantly and contemporaneously by Kraftwerk. Hip Hop would have died an early death (by way of exhausting 'Disco') without the interjection and sonic potentiality of 'Planet Rock'. Equally, early Chicago House would not have existed without the potential mapping offered by 'Electro Funk' / 'Hip Hop'.

 

[Orang Utan]

The most interesting aspect of this is the recognition of the potential offered by technology, which could never quite escape the European antecedents as manifested by most significantly and contemporaneously by Kraftwerk. Hip Hop would have died an early death (by way of exhausting 'Disco') without the interjection and sonic potentiality of 'Planet Rock'. Equally, early Chicago House would not have existed without the potential mapping offered by 'Electro Funk' / 'Hip Hop'.

are you Tim Lawrence?

 

[Beats & Pieces]

are you Tim Lawrence?

Who?

Do you actually have something meaningful to offer here?

 

[Orang Utan]

Who?

He wrote this:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00EGIVV32/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1
It's great - full of info you wouldn't read elsewhere, but it's a bit dry and reads like someone's PhD

 

[Beats & Pieces]

He wrote this:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00EGIVV32/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1
It's great - full of info you wouldn't read elsewhere, but it's a bit dry and reads like someone's PhD

I have not read it - but will do so now, so thank you.