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Where have all the bakers (and traditional grocery staples of your youth) gone? (Long time passing). 🍰🍞🥧

Where have all the bakers gone?

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danny la rouge

More like *fanny* la rouge!
This came up on another thread.

In the not too distant past, there were bakers shops in convenient locations in most towns. I live in Glasgow, and unless you count fancy artisan bakers where you can buy cottage loaves for the same price as an actual cottage, or Greggs, then there are no old style high street bakeries. Certainly not near where I live. (G20).

Yesterday my Dad (85, who is living with us after a hospital stay) wanted a bridie. ( Bridie - Wikipedia ). In my youth, these were available on any high street. We couldn't find one. Supermarkets will sell you multi-packs of Scotch pies. Greggs will sell you steak bakes. But no bridies.

Recently I was told by some Scottish Tweeterers that soda scones were not a Scottish thing, but only Northern Irish. This didn't used to be true. They were available in all good bakers when I was growing up, and we'd often have them as a breakfast item, toasted and topped with eggs (poached, scrambled or fried), or with butter and marmalade. Or even toasted with grilled cheese and a slice of tomato for lunch. They were usually toasted as a breakfast accompaniment (rarely fried and on the plate in a fry-up, as in Northern Ireland, unless stale, but certainly a regular breakfast item). But you can't find them anywhere now, so youngsters in Scotland would be forgiven for not knowing about them.

Plain bread ( Plain loaf - Wikipedia ), in my youth known as a "half loaf", as they were baked in twos then split; (Scottish) crumpets (the larger of the two pan cakes below); Selkirk bannocks, and on and on, which used to be widely available, are now out of fashion, and where even available in supermarkets, are often labelled with non-Scots terms: "Irish potato cakes" (tattie scones), "Irish farls" (soda scones); even turnips come cling-wrapped and called "swedes" in some shops.

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I knows tastes and times change, but I regret the loss of bakeries you can buy bread and rolls in, and the loss of local character.

Are there non-Greggs, non-artisan bakeries on your local high street? Are there traditional items from your youth lost to newer generations? I know Staffordshire has very few oatcake shops now, for example, although they are available pre-packed in supermarkets. What about Henderson's relish in Sheffield? Do young folks buy it?

Take it away, curmudgeons of Urban. Shake your fist at that cloud!
 
As a kid I used to live in a village with an independent bakery that didn't cook fancy bread, but it was also totally different from supermarket bread because it didn't use the chorleywood process. It used to sell yesterday's bread for 10p a loaf, and my family lived on those 10p loaves half the time. I just checked and it doesn't exist any more. There is one such place near me in London, though predictably it has been pressured into doing sourdough as well.
 
The supermarkets purposely undercut local bakeries when they started their instore bakeries about thirty years ago. They took on a lot of bakers who had nowhere to go. Now the same supermarkets are shutting their instore bakeries and at best reheat part baked loaves. Greggs does not even sell bread in most of their shops.
I bake my own bread but wish I did not have to.
 
Greggs does not even sell bread in most of their shops
Indeed. Except the Outlet stores (we have one near us) where you can sometimes get packs of the baguette and "deli roll" style bread they use for sandwiches in their normal stores.
 
There is still a non artisan local baker on Bedford high street which does Bedfordshire Clangers along with decent white and brown loaves.View attachment 340413

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They're quite the thing aren't they? I mean, what's not to like? BRB off to assemble a pitch deck to raise investment in artisan clanger food van

Clanger was made using shoulder of Pork again cooked slowly, this time in Sage and Cider. The dessert side was made from Granny Smith apples roasted with honey, butter and brown sugar - just sublime!

The Bedfordshire clanger was originally the food of farm labourers. A suet pudding with a meat filling, portable cold or eaten hot on returning home. They were considered affordable, filling and very calorific. As the pudding could be left simmering away all day, ready for the family's evening return, it suited an area where many of the women were employed outside the home in the 19th century.

For centuries hungry fieldworkers all over the county have tucked into their Bedfordshire Clangers as their lunchtime snack. We are very proud to have produced the Bedfordshire Clanger for the last 50 years, maintaining the tradition and supplying the county with a little taste of history.


Like the good old days we make our clangers using the same ingredients with suet pastry and a combination of savoury and sweet fillings at either end of the clanger.​
 
We had Percy Ingles in East London until recently. Did decent bread, smashing pastries and great doughnuts. It was cheap and cheerful but was more suited to the community than the sourdough bakeries that are all that exist now. scifisam and Rebelda

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Don't remind me 😭 Percy Ingles got me through the pandemic, fed me at work (i.e. every bloody day). So so much better than shitty Greggs :mad: edit: I bought a bread machine when they closed.

I dunno if you've been around here for long enough, but when I was a kid there was an independent bakery on roman road, where the tanning place is now. Run by nice women that I was absolutely terrified of :D the crusty white rolls were so good I used to choose one OVER CAKE after school.
 
Don't remind me 😭 Percy Ingles got me through the pandemic, fed me at work (i.e. every bloody day). So so much better than shitty Greggs :mad:

I dunno if you've been around here for long enough, but when I was a kid there was an independent bakery on roman road, where the tanning place is now. Run by nice women that I was absolutely terrified of :D the crusty white rolls were so good I used to choose one OVER CAKE after school.

Yeah before my time, we came here in 2000ish. Advance shock troops of gentrification.

There's nothing quite like a crusty white roll.
 
Several independent proper bakeries round here but nothing like when I was growing up in NI or even in Leeds 30 years ago. A lot of the staples of my childhood (Ginger baps, treacle farls, wheaten bread, malt loaf, etc.) are pretty regional and difficult to get over here. What you can get is well overpriced so I make it all at home - especially Veda style malt loaf - and share among other hungry ex-pats. I can feel some baking coming on 😋
 
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They are closed for August; so very French and so very good.
I think traditional bakers are on the increase, there are a few others around here. Larger ones include Gails and Blackbird.
 
Crusty Cob in the precinct at Cowick Street, Exeter. There's one in Sidmouth too. Think there might be others dotted around Devon? Maybe not. Either way, you couldn't really describe them as a chain.

I think Devon and Cornwall bucks the trend due to the demand for pasties, so the local bakers may well be more of a pasty shop that does bread, cakes and other items from the beige food group or a bakers that does lots of pasties. Can think of a few in various West Country towns, plus local chains like Rowes, Oggy Oggy and Barnicutts.
 
Where I live in east angular there are two independent bakeries, one of which has 15 local outlets, and one of which is unique to our rather large village. They're reliably OK rather than spectacular and I suppose we just take them for granted. How long either can keep going with these insane energy prices is another matter.
 
There are Goodfellow and Steven, and Baynes in broughty ferry and central Dundee. Not sure what, if anything, they have in the way of range of breads, tattie scones etc. I mostly go for scotch pies. Last time I asked for an Aberdeen roll they were out.
 
Yes, I’m not aware of Gail and Blackbird’s, so I require local knowledge of whether it’s a local bakery of the type I’m thinking of.
 
There are Goodfellow and Steven, and Baynes in broughty ferry and central Dundee. Not sure what, if anything, they have in the way of range of breads, tattie scones etc. I mostly go for scotch pies. Last time I asked for an Aberdeen roll they were out.
Yes, Bayne’s and Stephen’s and Auld’s are the type of bakeries I’m thinking of. None in my part of Glasgow, sadly.
 
Yes, Bayne’s and Stephen’s and Auld’s are the type of bakeries I’m thinking of. None in my part of Glasgow, sadly.

I think most of them will be in the sort of shopping high streets like Broughty Ferry, the ones with a mix of charity shops, art galleries, independent boutiques, M&co, Bonmarche, and regular daytrippers.
 
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