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Where can I find the Hateful 8?

DotCommunist said:
perfectly good screener available on the usual torrent sites. Not one of tarantino's keepers to my mind
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This is (or should be) a good film that is on release here (or will be tomorrow). I'll pay to see a proper copy, beautifully screened, and without irritating idents
 
Perfect screener of The Revenant out also. Looks like no oscar again for Dicaprio this year!
 
Was going to go to see this at the pictures tomorrow but it's £20 for the 70mm screening. :eek:

Fuck that, but I'll at least wait for the Blu-ray to rent or an HD torrent.
 
ffsear said:
Perfect screener of The Revenant out also. Looks like no oscar again for Dicaprio this year!
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He is currently the front runner on all the Oscar prediction lists for 2016. Not only is he overdue for a win, he stars in one one of the top awards films for 2016 and the Oscars love a character who suffers and overcomes adversary and that he does in The Revenant.

I doubt a DVD screener is "perfect" especially for a film as visually stunning as The Revenant. These things get rushed out for awards voters and often have not even gone through a final grade and mix for home video. On any reasonably large display they will look crap. I was in a position for many years where I legitimately got sent screeners for all the new awards worthy films and eventually I stopped watching the ones for films which primarily worked on a visual/sensory level (like The Revenant) because they don't represent the films the way they were intended to be seen.
 
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Went to see this last night. Loved it. Slow build up, couldn't quite see where is was going then the most wonderful Tarantino blood, brains and body parts orgy of violence kinda explained it all:D

I've been offered a screener of the Revenant but turned it down in favour of seeing at the cinema next week - really looking forward to it.:thumbs:
 
Just seen it in 70mm format at The Rich Mix (incidentally a fantastic cinema with a brilliant screen that I was previously unaware of) and thought that it was fantastic. For me Michael Madsen stole the show.
 
Reno said:
Was going to go to see this at the pictures tomorrow but it's £20 for the 70mm screening. :eek:

Fuck that, but I'll at least wait for the Blu-ray to rent or an HD torrent.
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I really dont think this film needs to be seen in 70mm - i saw it digitally and it looked super sharp - but quality aside, the main thing is that 90% of the film takes place on one clearly-a-studio set, and another 6% on another studio set, and personally i dont see how this whole 70mm thing added anything to this particular film, other than being misleading that it was going to be an epic snowy western with lots of great landscapes in the style of The Great Silence. It couldn't be more opposite - to me it looked a TV show. I deliberately didn't read anything about it before hand, but i kind of wish id known this as maybe i wouldn't have been so disappointed.

There were things i liked a lot: the score, the couple of outdoor shots, the attempt to make a hollywood blockbuster that is effectively a one room, dialogue led theatre piece, some of the performances....but there were loads of things I really didnt like: some awkward dialogue at times, lots felt like a rehash of earlier tarantino films, some weird caricature acting (Roth especially), tone changing from serious to pantomime, from realistic to cartoon, the whole n-word thing yet again... Above all it all felt really stagey, and was lit like a tv set, and so for me there was very little suspension of disbelief. Didnt believe for a second they were out isolated on top of a mountain in a blizzard. The Shining you feel that to the bone - here they were just stuck on a set.

I saw Death Proof over xmas and loved that because it was out and out going for b movie territory, and you got the feeling that Tarantino relaxed and just had fun with it. Whereas here there are moments and signs of attempting to do something a lot better than that, but in fact that just confused me to the fact that this is really just a long pantomime yarn.
 
I really rather enjoyed this film. Granted it's not one of his best but still a great film. A lot of the complaints about it seem to be around the fact it largely takes place in one room, did these people not see Reservoir Dogs then?
 
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interesting overview of this endless Tarantino use of the word nigger....
http://gawker.com/the-complete-history-of-quentin-tarantino-saying-nigge-1748731193
 
ska invita said:
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interesting overview of this endless Tarantino use of the word nigger....
http://gawker.com/the-complete-history-of-quentin-tarantino-saying-nigge-1748731193
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gleefully slapping a woman about too. I can see the little ferret faced master of pastiche sniggering as he wrote that bit. I give you it that its treatment of women is perhaps historically accurate as probably is the repeated nigger-saying. I don't think tarantino pulls either off with enough depth to make them anything other than cheap tricks to shock and awe.
 
I thought his use of language in Django Unchained was very effective. As far as I recall, excepting the German character, every white person in the whole film uses just one word for black people. Given the times he is depicting, I found that very effective, particularly given the film's black and white morality. In fact, it defines the film's morality: every single one of these people deserves to die. The Australians use different words (don't remember what exactly), and there is a momentary questioning as to what they deserve, but no, they're in it as well, so bang bang.

I didn't find that gratuitous or a cheap trick at all - it had an important point to it.
 
Don't really understand why it's made an issue of really. None of the usages of it are particularly out of context and more often than not they're spoken by a black actor. Granted, it was probably over used in Django and the Hateful 8 but when considering the times those films are set in it's not out of context at all. America hasn't even begun to deal with its slavery history or the fact the country is built on a genocide and it seems to me those that can't or won't accept it are often the ones screaming loudest about this. Of course there would be little, if any, concern at all if Tarrantino was black
 
Doctor Carrot said:
Granted, it was probably over used in Django
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It's pretty much exclusively spoken by white actors in Django (and the Hateful 8 for that matter). Would it have been better if those nasty white slave-owners had used less vile language about the people they owned?

I think it was used in exactly the right proportion in Django.
 
Doctor Carrot said:
Don't really understand why it's made an issue of really. None of the usages of it are particularly out of context and more often than not they're spoken by a black actor. Granted, it was probably over used in Django and the Hateful 8 but when considering the times those films are set in it's not out of context at all. America hasn't even begun to deal with its slavery history or the fact the country is built on a genocide and it seems to me those that can't or won't accept it are often the ones screaming loudest about this. Of course there would be little, if any, concern at all if Tarrantino was black
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Did you not see this?
ska invita said:
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interesting overview of this endless Tarantino use of the word nigger....
http://gawker.com/the-complete-history-of-quentin-tarantino-saying-nigge-1748731193
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littlebabyjesus said:
It's pretty much exclusively spoken by white actors in Django. Would it have been better if those nasty white slave-owners had used less vile language about the people they owned?

I think it was used in exactly the right proportion in Django.
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how about in Pulp Fiction? It's clear that he gets off on saying it
 
Orang Utan said:
how about in Pulp Fiction? It's clear that he gets off on saying it
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Is it? In PF you're right, it's used very differently, but not in a fanciful way - that usage happens in the US. The argument would be that depicting those particular characters not talking like that would be a sanitising cop-out.
 
Orang Utan said:
Did you not see this?
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Yeah I did. Still don't see the issue really. Jackie Brown was a homage to blacksploittion films where every person in that film using the word is black and is well in line with those films. Jules using it in Pulp Fiction is pretty much how I'd expect his character to talk, same with Marcellus. There's a few instances of it in True Romance, which he didn't actually direct, that's a bit OTT and in Reservoir Dogs but Django and Hateful 8 is where it's most used and most in context. In those times black people were lynched for looking at a white woman the wrong way so they were hardly going to be referred to as anything other than a nigger were they? It's therefore realistic it's used that much in a film about slavery and in another film set in the time just after a civil war over slavery.
 
Doctor Carrot said:
Yeah I did. Still don't see the issue really. Jackie Brown was a homage to blacksploittion films where every person in that film using the word is black and is well in line with those films. Jules using it in Pulp Fiction is pretty much how I'd expect his character to talk, same with Marcellus. There's a few instances of it in True Romance, which he didn't actually direct, that's a bit OTT and in Reservoir Dogs but Django and Hateful 8 is where it's most used and most in context. In those times black people were lynched for looking at a white woman the wrong way so they were hardly going to be referred to as anything other than a nigger were they? It's therefore realistic it's used that much in a film about slavery and in another film set in the time just after a civil war over slavery.
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Pretty much. It's odd in many ways for people to take exception to the use of language by racist white characters in the deeply racist 19th century USA. Of all the things to take exception to about those times. He doesn't skirt around the fundamentally racist nature of the times - he confronts that nature head-on. You might not like the way he does it, but it's odd in the extreme to me to have a go at him for doing it. Think of all the Westerns still made that barely touch it.
 
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