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I have mixed memories of Waterloo in the mid 70s. I used to commute through there to Broadwick St.
 
Great stuff, love the 1971 pic with two blue warships heading a train, presumably off down to Exeter. Also the BEA terminal (where was that?) and elaborate tea trolleys.
 
Was on York Road - on part of the former Festival of Britain site, later the Shell Centre site.

the London Inheritance blog has a piece about it here

I don't know if you've ever seen it, but the 1956 film The Long Arm has its closing scenes in and around there.
 
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Wonderful stuff!
 
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Wonderful stuff!

Amazing find - the last picture I can hardly get my head around , there is so much detail of ordinary people getting on with the journey - locomotives with tenders working suburban trains into platfoms 1 to 4 - and the fireman on no4 just about to go in between and uncouple.

And as for that buffet car ...with not a polysterene cup in sight .....!
 
I remember first going to Waterloo in 2000, when I travelled up to London for a University interview. The one abiding memory of that trip besides the amazing weather was that they still had the old split-flap displays for the next trains. Even in 2000 that seemed really old school to me, and not something I'd seen before at any other station. Until then, I'd only ever been to Paddington which had used digital displays for as long as I recall. Felt like being in the 80s.
 
I remember first going to Waterloo in 2000, when I travelled up to London for a University interview. The one abiding memory of that trip besides the amazing weather was that they still had the old split-flap displays for the next trains. Even in 2000 that seemed really old school to me, and not something I'd seen before at any other station. Until then, I'd only ever been to Paddington which had used digital displays for as long as I recall. Felt like being in the 80s.

Known in the trade as "Solaris" ---Italian made I think , great because the gentle clattering made people aware of trains being "put up" ....before that they had a superb wooden train indicating system , hand worked by the local staff , relying on any updates by a Bakelite phone from the signal box. Liverpool Street had a similar one , which is in the depths of the stores at York Museum. Watch the BTF film "Terminus" for period action. On "Youtube" I suspect.
 
Great pictures, The poster for the 100th anniversary was one of a pair- Waterloo Station In peace and war...CCD98021-6C56-4EB7-8A16-36993BFF7BB4.jpeg
 
Based on that I think I will take a trip up to town for a burn around on my bike, is London really this dead?



As to the steam days, which were before my time, I have a question; The steam engine came up to the concourse, did they drive them backwards towards Windsor, Portsmouth etc. or did another engine come along and connect to the other end? davesgcr and other train nerds...


And Puddy_Tat


I do remember that board, earliest memories are probably 1976, heading to Hounslow, not sure why not on tube though, but that pic flashbacks...
 
Based on that I think I will take a trip up to town for a burn around on my bike, is London really this dead?



As to the steam days, which were before my time, I have a question; The steam engine came up to the concourse, did they drive them backwards towards Windsor, Portsmouth etc. or did another engine come along and connect to the other end? davesgcr and other train nerds...


And Puddy_Tat



I do remember that board, earliest memories are probably 1976, heading to Hounslow, not sure why not on tube though, but that pic flashbacks...
I was surprised to see it so dead so long into what I assumed what a rapidly loosening lockdown.

I'm posting some more pics tomorrow but here's what Piccadilly Circus looked like at 4.30pm yesterday

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I was surprised to see it so dead so long into what I assumed what a rapidly loosening lockdown.

I'm posting some more pics tomorrow but here's what Piccadilly Circus looked like at 4.30pm yesterday


Wow!

Said on another thread that as a kid I used to cycle around the West End, City and Docklands on a Sunday, as all the shops were shut, that's what it was like back then. Will get back up and give it another go, City & Docklands may have changed a bit since mid 80's...
 
As to the steam days, which were before my time, I have a question; The steam engine came up to the concourse, did they drive them backwards towards Windsor, Portsmouth etc. or did another engine come along and connect to the other end? @davesgcr and other train nerds...

as far as main line engines are concerned, after coming in to waterloo from (say) bournemouth, they would go 'tender first' to nine elms depot where they would get another load of coal, then they would go on the turntable, thus-ish -

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then run tender first to waterloo and take another train out.

depending on circumstances, either a shunting engine would remove the carriages (so they could be cleaned, and the bog water tanks re-filled) to release the loco, or the arriving loco would have to wait until the train departed.)

waterloo did have a turntable - see 1951 OS map - but it looks possibly a bit small for a full size loco, and was probably only used by locos on suburban trains (most of the inner suburban lines from waterloo went electric between the 20s and the 1939 war)

'push pull' operation of steam trains (where the train was driven from the front but the loco was still at the back) was restricted to quite short trains on branch lines, as in this example on the westerham branch


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even in to the BR diesel / electric locomotive era, push-pull operation was quite a rarity, it was used on the bournemouth-weymouth line from the late 60s, when they electrified only as far as Bournemouth -


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the diesel loco here is pushing the un-powered trailer set, the driver is in a cab in the front carriage. the un-powered bit was pushed from waterloo to bournemouth by an electric unit.

full on main line push-pull operation didn't really happen in the UK until the mid 80s on the Glasgow-Edinburgh line.
 
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