Vauxhall & Nine Elms regeneration (and new river crossing?)

[Brixton Hatter]

Not sure if anyone is interested in Lambeth Council's proposed plans for Vauxhall and Nine Elms - details here:

http://www.lambeth.gov.uk/Services/HousingPlanning/Planning/PlanningPolicy/VauxhallareaSPD.htm

- One of the things that caught my eye was a proposal for a new river crossing between Vauxhall/Nine Elms and Pimlico - which would be pedestrian and cycle only

- There's some nice words about making the junction (Vauxhall Cross) better for pedestrians and cyclists, but not many firm plans.

- Council seem to think they can build lots of new retail/commercial space, and a large number of tall buildings

- A continuous riverside walk is planned from Lambeth Bridge down through Battersea - this I would like to see.

There is an online exhibition you can view for more details here: http://www.lambeth.gov.uk/Services/...ngPolicy/AVisionForVauxhallAreaExhibition.htm

 

[Manter]

Interesting thx. Does seem a bit vague so far. Funny bit of London, vauxhall. Pleasure gardens are cool, tho those cigarette things by the RVT entrance are strange.

 

[Dan U]

they could move the cable car down. whack some bike racks on the outside like ski racks.

job done.

 

[Brixton Hatter]

Forgot to add there is a current consultation running -

Consultation activities run from Saturday 13 October until Monday 26 November 2012.​

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and an online questionnaire here: http://www.lambeth.gov.uk/Services/...ng/PlanningPolicy/VauxhallSPDconsultation.htm

 

[Plumdaff]

I'm not against tall buildings per se - in fact they make complete sense in central London, but I'm reluctant to encourage Lambeth Council in Vauxhall given what they've already done to the area.

 

[Manter]

I'm not against tall buildings per se - in fact they make complete sense in central London, but I'm reluctant to encourage Lambeth Council in Vauxhall given what they've already done to the area.

Poss better to keep them all in one cluster round the Lego building than have the odd one or two round Lambeth?

 

[Brixton Hatter]

I'm not against tall buildings per se - in fact they make complete sense in central London, but I'm reluctant to encourage Lambeth Council in Vauxhall given what they've already done to the area.

This is what it could look like in future:

 

[tarannau]

Can I just use this opportunity to voice again how much I dislike St Georges fucking Wharf. It's a horrible miss-mash and po-mo monstrosity, right down (well up) to the daftly surplus tampax style wings on the roofline. Given the prices of that hole you'd expect something with more taste and ambition

Worse than that it's desolate landscaped drabness most of the time, many of the properties bought as pied a terre or overseas investment properties.The sparse remaining businesses in the complex, Tescos Express perhaps excepted, struggle away unconvincingly. There are a few affordable housing shoeboxes reluctantly left in there admittedly - all with cracking views of the bus garage or apartment walls - but it seems to be a building designed by wankers, for wankers.

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

Is this all to cater for lazy Americans that will move in once new Embassy is built?

 

[Plumdaff]

This is what it could look like in future:

So everyone else in Stockwell and Vauxhall would never see sunlight again. That's a LOT of tall buildings.

 

[spanglechick]

where're the markets in that pic? - i can't work it out...

 

[Brixton Hatter]

One thing the plan will apparently do is get rid of the "hated Vauxhall gyratory" system. That's all good for me.

There's an article in the Lambeth Weekender with comments from the Vauxhall residents association complaining that the plans - which include 16,000 new homes, 3,500 in Vauxhall, "up to 40% 'affordable' " - don't offer anything for elderly people, or any sheltered housing, or anything for lower paid workers like nurses and teachers who will be needed in the area. "What we will see is in fact wealthy ghettos" they said.

 

[Brixton Hatter]

And of course, the major development in this regeneration plan is the new US embassy, that fucking carbuncle of a shiny box surrounded by a fucking moat where we'll probably get shot if we get too close to the fence

 

[snowy_again]

Its become a BID now too, complete with 'community wardens' to address anti social behaviour.

Bets on how long the wet house / big issue remains next to the new waitrose / premier inn?

 

[Crispy]

- One of the things that caught my eye was a proposal for a new river crossing between Vauxhall/Nine Elms and Pimlico - which would be pedestrian and cycle only

They're having an open competition to decide the design. The entries are all anonymous, so no famous architects or engineers get special treatment. The final decision will be by a panel of judges, but they're after public feedback too. You can check out all 74 (!) entries here: http://www.nepbridgecompetition.co.uk/gallery.html

My favorites:






There are some real art-school designs in there too. Completely impractical

 

[Pickman's model]

there's already a thread about this

 

[agricola]

They're having an open competition to decide the design. The entries are all anonymous, so no famous architects or engineers get special treatment. The final decision will be by a panel of judges, but they're after public feedback too. You can check out all 74 (!) entries here: http://www.nepbridgecompetition.co.uk/gallery.html

My favorites:

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There are some real art-school designs in there too. Completely impractical

The first two arent anything new compared to what crosses the river already, but that third one does look nice.

 

[ViolentPanda]

The first two arent anything new compared to what crosses the river already, but that third one does look nice.

A bit like a Moebius strip.

 

[Manter]

They're having an open competition to decide the design. The entries are all anonymous, so no famous architects or engineers get special treatment. The final decision will be by a panel of judges, but they're after public feedback too. You can check out all 74 (!) entries here: http://www.nepbridgecompetition.co.uk/gallery.html

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There are some real art-school designs in there too. Completely impractical

I like the ruler.

 

[cuppa tee]

I think a ferry boat would be a better idea

 

[Brainaddict]

For christs sake, how many crossings does west London need? How about a pedestrian/bike crossing at Rotherhithe so that I don't have the choice of either taking months off my life by cycling through the road tunnel, or taking a 2 mile detour to the nearest crossing?

I know, I know, it's up to Southwark to sort this out, not Lambeth, but it still looks like a fuck you to east London, which could do with three or four pedestrian/bike crossings. That don't go to the almost uninhabited Greenwich peninsula.

 

[ska invita]

 

[Brainaddict]

I like the one made of millions of glowsticks best. I mean, fuck going on it, it doesn't look remotely safe. But it looks awesome.

 

[spanglechick]

It's not particularly West London is it? More central.

Not saying that East London river crossings aren't needed - just never heard vauxhall being described as "west London".

 

[Brainaddict]

It's not particularly West London is it? More central.

Not saying that East London river crossings aren't needed - just never heard vauxhall being described as "west London".

I adhere to ye olde idea of West i.e. West of the dragons guarding the City of London, which latter is the true centre of everything, hence the 'West End' being in the inaccurately called 'centre' of London

 

[spanglechick]

I adhere to ye olde idea of West i.e. West of the dragons guarding the City of London, which latter is the true centre of everything, hence the 'West End' being in the inaccurately called 'centre' of London

Ah. Sorry. I wasn't born until 1974.

 

[Brainaddict]

On a more serious note, I like the ones with separate bike and pedestrian lanes - have you ever tried to cycle across the jubilee footbridges at Waterloo at rush hour?

 

[agricola]

They have shortlisted four designs, all horrors.

 

[Mrs Miggins]

They have shortlisted four designs, all horrors.

What's with all the curly-wurly bits thereby forcing you to cycle/walk round and round when all you want to do is cross the fucking river?!
It's hardly an area where tourists will meander across to admire the view.

 

[Pickman's model]

What's with all the curly-wurly bits thereby forcing you to cycle/walk round and round when all you want to do is cross the fucking river?!
It's hardly an area where tourists will meander across to admire the view.

it's not meant for tourists. it is meant for the filthy rich.