ULEZ camera cutters

[A380]

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Anyway attacking a non sentient object isn't violence.

So, English justice systems say it is, Tim off the interwebs says it isn't.

I wonder which is correct?

You going to start quoting 'Maritime law' next?

 

[Rob Ray]

The law also defines corporations as people tbf.

 

[Sasaferrato]

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Not forgetting the little girl who lived by the South Circular. Air pollution a cause in girl's death, coroner rules in landmark case

ULEZ save lives.

 

[Jeff Robinson]

So, English justice systems say it is, Tim off the interwebs says it is

I wonder which is correct?

You going to start quoting 'Maritime law' next?

Tim wasn’t making a legal argument, but a moral/political one, so how the English legal system defines violence was irrelevant to his point. But in any event, it isn’t true that intentional property destruction is regarded as a violent crime by English law. Violent offences are understood as ones that intentionally or recklessly threaten the life or limb of another.

 

[LDC]

Well exactly, many on the left or on the activist scene equate non-violence with 'good' and violence with 'bad', and so twist themselves into all sorts of weird positions defending things they think as of 'good' as non-violent.

 

[tim]

So, English justice systems say it is, Tim off the interwebs says it isn't.

I wonder which is correct?

You going to start quoting 'Maritime law' next?

In my idiolect, it is correct, but perhaps not in yours.

Anyway, what is this "English Justice" that you refer to?

 

[The39thStep]

In my idiolect, it is correct, but perhaps not in yours.

Anyway, what is this "English Justice" that you refer to?

Might have meant England and Wales . I don’t think , however, that criminal damage itself is included in the violent crime stats .

 

[nogojones]

The law also defines corporations as people tbf.

and a good chunk of the posters here as domestic extremists.

 

[Rob Ray]

twist themselves into all sorts of weird positions defending things they think as of 'good' as non-violent.

The radical left is actually fairly non-knotty ime in saying violence against people =/= damage of things.

 

[rubbershoes]

Might have meant England and Wales . I don’t think , however, that criminal damage itself is included in the violent crime stats .

I think tim was noting the difference between the law and justice

 

[not-bono-ever]

my various SM feeds are full of this. fucking algos. I do think its good that people actually get involve in stuff and can organise. but fuckin hell, this really isnt the best use of that energy given the state of the fetid , stinking , overflowing blocked toilet that is the UK. Yes , I have a diesel but its got that pigs piss additive stuff that makes it lovely and nice apparently

 

[editor]

State of this

Angry driver explains why he's blocking ULEZ cameras in dinosaur costume

Paul says there's a big difference between blockers like himself and so-called 'blade runners' who vandalise the cameras

www.mylondon.news

 

[tony.c]

ULEZ camera destroyed by explosion.

https://www.itv.com/news/london/2023/12/07/investigation-launched-as-ulez-camera-explodes-in-the-street

 

[Chz]

ULEZ camera destroyed by explosion.

https://www.itv.com/news/london/2023/12/07/investigation-launched-as-ulez-camera-explodes-in-the-street

You'd think exploding things would get a bit more police attention, but as someone else said about it - it will be vandalism until the perpetrators' skin colour can be determined.

 

[Pickman's model]

State of this

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Angry driver explains why he's blocking ULEZ cameras in dinosaur costume

Paul says there's a big difference between blockers like himself and so-called 'blade runners' who vandalise the cameras

www.mylondon.news

Yeh they should get a job, bloody soap dodgers etc

 

[Pickman's model]

ULEZ camera destroyed by explosion.

https://www.itv.com/news/london/2023/12/07/investigation-launched-as-ulez-camera-explodes-in-the-street

Don't think your link works

 

[blairsh]

You joke but one of these cunts is the next Lord Humungus...

 

[tony.c]

Don't think your link works

Yeah, I know. I tried retyping the link a couple of times but I kept getting that. But the article is referred to in the link that comes up.

 

[8ball]

Don't think your link works

https://www.itv.com/news/london/2023-12-07/investigation-launched-as-ulez-camera-explodes-in-the-street

 

[Lurdan]

Counterterror officers called in after Ulez camera is blown up - Times (archived)

Scotland Yard said it officers were keeping an open mind as to “whether or not there is a connection between the camera being cut down and the planting of the explosive device”.

In a video posted on social media in the aftermath of the blast, a man was heard saying: “Ulez camera’s been dismantled, blown the geezer’s van in half, shrapnel everywhere. Broke the geezer’s fence. It’s like a World War Two explosion’s just gone off. Well done, Sadiq … putting more people’s lives at risk.”

 

[Rob Ray]

Extremely stupid to raise the threat level like that given they were rolling along quite well with petty vandalism and making Facebook Reels of themselves talking bollocks at camera installers.

On a different note, not sure if this should go here or in the Tories being incompetent thread but the MP for er ... Mansfield, is petitioning not to have a ULEZ round his manor, which I guess is an easy win, given there aren't any in Mansfield and the only council nearby that he thought was considering one, Nottingham, have said specifically that they aren't.

 

[Pickman's model]

Yeah, I know. I tried retyping the link a couple of times but I kept getting that. But the article is referred to in the link that comes up.

Yeh that didn't work for me either

 

[danny la rouge]

Extremely stupid to raise the threat level like that given they were rolling along quite well with petty vandalism and making Facebook Reels of themselves talking bollocks at camera installers.

On a different note, not sure if this should go here or in the Tories being incompetent thread but the MP for er ... Mansfield, is petitioning not to have a ULEZ round his manor, which I guess is an easy win, given there aren't any in Mansfield and the only council nearby that he thought was considering one, Nottingham, have said specifically that they aren't.

If I could be arsed I’d set up a petition to have one outside his house. But I can’t.

 

[Dogsauce]

Extremely stupid to raise the threat level like that given they were rolling along quite well with petty vandalism and making Facebook Reels of themselves talking bollocks at camera installers.

On a different note, not sure if this should go here or in the Tories being incompetent thread but the MP for er ... Mansfield, is petitioning not to have a ULEZ round his manor, which I guess is an easy win, given there aren't any in Mansfield and the only council nearby that he thought was considering one, Nottingham, have said specifically that they aren't.

Pretending to be the victim of an imaginary threat is what right wingers do these days, so it’s standard behaviour for a Tory. Suspect he has opinions on critical race theory which presents about the same level of harm to him as the ULEZ expansion.

 

[pbsmooth]

I see one of the clowns who blew up a camera was from Horsham. Nowhere near ULEZ. Get a hobby and get off Facebook you lemon.

 

[two sheds]

Counter-terrorism arrests after Ulez camera blown up in London

Men, 60 and 61, are detained and addresses searched following explosion in Sidcup on 6 December

www.theguardian.com

Twats, I wonder what they're like politically. Odds on conspiracy theorists with a tinge of right wing activism.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

They’re in their sixties?
They’re both eligible for over 60 Oyster cards ffs.