Tulse Hill news, chitter chatter and gossip
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I can't see them easily shifting those 45 densely packed flats in the post-covid economy.
That said, hopefully the new development will encourage a bit of regeneration for that stretch of Norwood road/ S circular. Tulse Hill Hotel and Siyam Niyom aside it is a bit run down and feels hostile to pedestrians.
That said, hopefully the new development will encourage a bit of regeneration for that stretch of Norwood road/ S circular. Tulse Hill Hotel and Siyam Niyom aside it is a bit run down and feels hostile to pedestrians.
We had been told that the gyratory was going to be reworked, leading to a more pedestrian friendly environment. I think it was no longer to be one way, and the bit between Thurlow Park and Christchurch Roads would be pedestrian and cycle prioritised, similar to how they did the stretch in front of the station in Herne Hill. Norwood Road/Tulse Hill Gyratory TFL Project
I can't find any update as to whether they managed to do anything or if they spent the £5m. The whole area is awful when it comes to the roads.
I don't think that 45 flats are going to do much for the local economy, 45 flats are 10 houses on Palace Road. They will probably bring 90 additional adults. And I bet the people who buy or rent these things will see themselves as more Herne Hill or Dulwich than Tulse Hill.
Crispy
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It's on hold
The project doesn't appear on TfL's junction improvements map:
With TfL's finances so tight, I don't see the gyratory remodelling happening any time soon, which is a real shame.
The project doesn't appear on TfL's junction improvements map:
With TfL's finances so tight, I don't see the gyratory remodelling happening any time soon, which is a real shame.
jimbarkanoodle
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Oh, i dunno. Im sure if they market them in Singapore, Malaysia and China as an investment opportunity, there may be no shortage of takers. You only have to look at the thousands and thousands of flats getting chucked up in Nine Elms to see that there must be money to be made somewhere along the line.
sparkybird
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If that's not an area that desperately needs addressing then I dunno where is
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I'm surprised it's taken that long for something to happen to that cluster of properties. I've been here 20 years and the commercial unit has been empty half of the time, with various businesses trying their luck and lasting a few months throughout. And there is a fair amount of unused land behind the properties, which I would imagine has far more value than whatever the landlord is getting in rent...
Presumably the new apartment blocks will extend to it?
Disgraceful lack of affordable housing, as per the depressing norm... Still, I will be happy to see the back of that eyesore. I am sure hotel guests paying &150+ a night will not miss the present view either
Presumably the new apartment blocks will extend to it?
Disgraceful lack of affordable housing, as per the depressing norm... Still, I will be happy to see the back of that eyesore. I am sure hotel guests paying &150+ a night will not miss the present view either
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Crispy
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They're not building all the way up to the North edge of the site; a "communal garden" fills the gap:
Planning ref: 19/03669/FUL
Planning ref: 19/03669/FUL
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Ah that’s good news from the local residents’ perspective. Even if we don’t get to see the garden from the street, I’d much rather have the empty space above and the daylight.
ETA: actually, on examining the plan on a bigger screen I have just realised that they must be using a large amount of that back land. The existing house immediately adjacent to Norwood Road sits well within the 'block B' footprint in that plan, so I reckon the entire block A will be on currently empty land.
Not certain though, the plan makes the stretch of road between the corner and the first property down the road look larger than it looks in real life. Also, my brain is shit at processing architectural plans for some reason
ETA: actually, on examining the plan on a bigger screen I have just realised that they must be using a large amount of that back land. The existing house immediately adjacent to Norwood Road sits well within the 'block B' footprint in that plan, so I reckon the entire block A will be on currently empty land.
Not certain though, the plan makes the stretch of road between the corner and the first property down the road look larger than it looks in real life. Also, my brain is shit at processing architectural plans for some reason
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It's worth a look at the application - here: 19/03669/FUL | Demolition of existing buildings and erection of a part 1, part 4, part 5, part 6 and part 7 storeys building including basement level to provide 45 residential units (Use Class C3) with landscaping, amenity areas, access, disabled parking, cycle parking and refuse and recycling stores (Revised Plans Received). REASON FOR RE-CONSULTATION: To notify that this application is a DEPARTURE APPLICATION: The proposed development is a departure from Policy ED2 and Policy H9 of the Lambeth Local Plan (2015). | 339 Norwood Road And 3 Thurlow Park Road LondonI'm surprised it's taken that long for something to happen to that cluster of properties. I've been here 20 years and the commercial unit has been empty half of the time, with various businesses trying their luck and lasting a few months throughout. And there is a fair amount of unused land behind the properties, which I would imagine has far more value than whatever the landlord is getting in rent...
Presumably the new apartment blocks will extend to it?
Disgraceful lack of affordable housing, as per the depressing norm... Still, I will be happy to see the back of that eyesore. I am sure hotel guests paying &150+ a night will not miss the present view either
It includes 12 social housing units and another 5 under shared ownership.
I'm quite surprised that Lambeth allowed the building line to be brought out so far on such a major junction though.
Plus the CGI visuals are awful. The one posted in the Buzz article presents the whole development as though it is going on the site of 339 Norwood Road, where in fact 3 Thurlow Park Rd is coming down too. This means it is twice as wide as it is depicted. Schoolboy error by the visualisers.
Cat Fan
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Indeed, people have literally died because of the poor pedestrian experience but because of TFL budget cuts it seems to have been mothballed. It's crying out for the Elephant and Castle treatment, I would be terrified to use it as a cyclist for one thing.If that's not an area that desperately needs addressing then I dunno where is
teuchter
je suis teuchter
Well spotted! If that image was used as part of the planning application you could argue that permission was given on the basis of misleading information.
I’d like to hope that the Planning Committee members all have the ability to read drawings and that this wouldn’t have been material to their decision making - but there’s a chance it might have influenced the public consultation. I haven’t had time to check.
Reminds me of one of my old lecturers - 25+ years ago. A former chief modelmaker at Arup, he freely admitted that they would get the most insensitive Brutalist schemes a leg-up by modelling them beautifully in rare timbers alongside their immediate neighbours so they looked to better fit in with their surroundings.
teuchter
je suis teuchter
Maybe you've never attended a planning committee meeting...
Cat Fan
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I received a letter today addressed to "the resident" asking for a donation to the Lambeth Youth Opportunities fund.
1) It feels a bit sad that Lambeth is so underfunded they have to ask for private donations to prop up youth services
2) it's partnered with a charity/limited company. Who are the directors, and why did the council select them?
3) I didn't opt in to be sent marketing and solicited for donations. Feels like a GDPR breach to me!
Plenty to grumble about
1) It feels a bit sad that Lambeth is so underfunded they have to ask for private donations to prop up youth services
2) it's partnered with a charity/limited company. Who are the directors, and why did the council select them?
3) I didn't opt in to be sent marketing and solicited for donations. Feels like a GDPR breach to me!
Plenty to grumble about
Crispy
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I got one of those. No name on the envelope, just an adress, so I don't think there's any selection going onI received a letter today addressed to "the resident" asking for a donation to the Lambeth Youth Opportunities fund.
1) It feels a bit sad that Lambeth is so underfunded they have to ask for private donations to prop up youth services
2) it's partnered with a charity/limited company. Who are the directors, and why did the council select them?
3) I didn't opt in to be sent marketing and solicited for donations. Feels like a GDPR breach to me!
Plenty to grumble about
nick
Pleomorphic Adenomas R us
Me too
Should you be interested, here is the web site Lambeth Youth Opportunities Fund It is almost invisible to google, which must take some going.
It works under the auspices of London Community foundation.
Details on that can be found on companies house here ., including names of directors etc
From a quick glance at the 2019 accounts, underlying Income is in the £10m range, with an additional £9m in 2018 raised for Grenfell. NEt assets around £25m
Should you be interested, here is the web site Lambeth Youth Opportunities Fund It is almost invisible to google, which must take some going.
It works under the auspices of London Community foundation.
Details on that can be found on companies house here ., including names of directors etc
From a quick glance at the 2019 accounts, underlying Income is in the £10m range, with an additional £9m in 2018 raised for Grenfell. NEt assets around £25m
snowy_again
Slush
LCF is a well established grant maker - part of the UK Community Foundation network
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
It was interesting that Planning Committee member Cllr Ben Kind ranted on about the inappropriateness of the max 6-storey, tiered Thurlow Park Rd development, which will be built in a "basin", but was wholly in favour of the Roman Rise development at the top of Central Hill, a 7 storey block that will overlook just about everywhere thereabouts. One might almost think that the Cllr is a NIMBY.
One assumes he's against the Cressingham development then as he lives across the road?
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
I wouldn't know, as he doesn't reply to my e-mails.
The "Trinity Rise" development was totally supported by all three ward cllrs on the 10th Dec, when Tulse Hill Labour had a vote on whether or not to support regeneration. They did a joint e-mail to members of Tulse Hill Labour which was full of falsehoods. I may have supplied a detailed point by point rebuttal to members.
What Kind's ACTUAL opinion is, no-one will ever know, as he's a Party man who'll do as whipped. Sadly for Ben, Marcia & Mary, THLP voted FOR the motion. gaijingirl
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?? What does that mean in practical terms? Is it just a drawing or is there some benefits?
sparkybird
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I guess it might help people with their journey, as it does offer an alternative to the tube which people might not know about. For instance I moved from Brixton to streatham last year and assumed I'd be getting to bus to Brixton tube for most of my journeys. I've actually done that once, after discovering the joys of Thames link. And especially now, it's much nicer to travel on than the tube. 
Cat Fan
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It's just a drawing but it might mean a lot more tourists/visitors will use Thameslink next year, and who knows might even encourage more local investment and increase footfall.
I believe it's the first time a non TFL managed line is on the tube map. For me it would make sense if the London bit of Thameslink did go under TFL management but that's a topic for another time.
Nanker Phelge
Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.
I used Thameslink for years. Now I get the other lot in to London Bridge (or was!). It's so much nicer. Seat every time.
Thameslink is just a fight I can't have anymore during rush hour.
Thameslink is just a fight I can't have anymore during rush hour.
sparkybird
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Since I don't use it for work and the trains have been upgraded, it is actually a joy to me!
