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Thanks Crispy. I obviously have absolutely no idea what I am talking about, but surely the asking price of £2.5m makes it prohibitively expensive to buy, get up to standard after being empty for a while, and then run as a pub. It is being priced like that so it makes no commercial sense to buy as a pub, gets no bidders, is rezoned as a result and will then realise that price when it is sold for flats.
I can't see how it would make that money as flats. The brochure says the footprint is 0.005Ha, or 50 square meters. In a three storey building you wouldn't get three one-bed flats in that space. The sales values wouldn't cover the purchase price alone before you even start to think about the development costs on top.

There must be a mistake in the valuation.
 
I can't see how it would make that money as flats. The brochure says the footprint is 0.005Ha, or 50 square meters. In a three storey building you wouldn't get three one-bed flats in that space. The sales values wouldn't cover the purchase price alone before you even start to think about the development costs on top.

There must be a mistake in the valuation.

Or the square footage. Having been in it, we all know that if the downstairs is repeated twice above it, that you could get at least a two bed flat on every storey.

I’ll be throwing in a few objections to any planning permission or rezoning on the grounds of parking, traffic, loss of community asset.
 
Rateable value only £31k so ~£1,300/month in rates.
*checks VOA*

C&S is rated at £115k! That's outrageous.

EDIT: Although it is a much larger building. On reflection, it's probably quite proportional.

The rateable value is not the amount you pay. There is a multiplier. Actual amount will be less
 
Or the square footage. Having been in it, we all know that if the downstairs is repeated twice above it, that you could get at least a two bed flat on every storey.

I doubt it. Space standards will prevent that level of occupancy. Minimum permitted area for a conversion 1 bed is 45m; the ground floor unit will lose a few meters for the staircase to first floor, and first floor will lose probably 10 metres for the staircase coming through to serve second floor. At best you'd get three studios, and if an additional storey was permitted maybe an extra unit or a couple of 2-3 beds. Cost of converting would be £250-400k plus fees/interest etc, so you'd need to sell for £3m before you broke even. I can't see a studio going for £1m in Tulse Hill.

I can't see what they are trying to achieve in marketing it at this value.
 
I can't see what they are trying to achieve in marketing it at this value.
"After being on the market as a public house for some time without a buyer, ongoing operation was deemed unviable, therefore this planning application proposes that the Use Class be changed to C3-Residential"
 
"After being on the market as a public house for some time without a buyer, ongoing operation was deemed unviable, therefore this planning application proposes that the Use Class be changed to C3-Residential"
again i'm not sure about that - they would get permitted development these days anyway. Even so, my estimates above were based on full resi conversion, not retaining ground floor as A3.

Just looking at the advert again it appears they have changed it to POA, which i'll take as an admission that their initial figure was vastly over-ambitious.
 
A murder investigation has been launched following the fatal stabbing of a man in Brixton.
Police were called at around 20:45hrs on Tuesday, 14 February to reports of a stabbing in Hillside Road, SW2.
Officers attended with the London Ambulance Service and found a 51-year-old man suffering from stab injuries. He was pronounced dead at the scene.
Next of kin have been informed but formal identification awaits.
A post-mortem examination will be held in due course
A 38-year old man was arrested on suspicion of murder and is currently in custody at a south London police station.
The Met's Homicide and Major Crime Command investigate under Acting Detective Chief Inspector Tom Dahri.
Enquiries into the circumstances of the incident are ongoing.
Anyone with information is asked to call the incident room on 020 8721 4961, contact police via 101 or @MetCC or Crimestoppers anonymously on 0800 555 111.

Murder investigation launched in Brixton

Local curtain twitchers' email group has it that it was a fight over a woman / romance

A 'fight'?
Does anyone know if the stabbing victim has been named?

Tulse Hill resident Gary Heaven, 51, was stabbed to death in front of his new girlfriend on Valentine's Day 2017.

The couple were walking their dog in Hillside Road, Streatham, when they were approached by a man armed with a knife at around 8.45pm.

During a struggle Mr Heaven, suffered a fatal stab wound to the neck and a stab wound to the back of his left arm. He was pronounced dead at the scene at 9.31pm.

On 16 February 2017, 38-year old Chi-Wah Cheung, of no fixed address, was charged with murder.

Cheung went on trial at Woolwich Crown Court on 21 August 2017. He was convicted of murder on 31 August and on 1 September 2017 was sentenced to life imprisonment with a minimum of 28 years before parole. Cheung was also found guilty of possession of an offensive weapon. He was sentenced to four years' imprisonment, to run concurrently.

The court heard Mr Heaven's new girlfriend Jamie Gavin had previously been in a relationship with Cheung for about nine years until they split up 2015. Cheung, who had a history of violence, did not accept the break-up and behaved aggressively after discovering she was dating Mr Heaven. On the day of the attack he called Miss Gavin to say he wanted to come and collect some letters and continued calling throughout the day despite her saying she was not interested.

He armed himself with a kitchen knife and confronted the couple in the street after seeing them holding hands.

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Cheung (above) called your fellow local Tulse Hill resident Mr Heaven a 'black bastard' and a 'mug' and attacked him while defenceless Mr Heaven tried to fend him off with a dog lead. During the struggle on the pavement as your fellow local resident Mr Heaven tried to protect himself, Cheung then started raining blows down onto Mr Heaven who was stabbed twice; one to the back of the left arm and the fatal injury to the right side of his neck. Cheung shouted 'F*cking die' as he carried out the attack before fleeing towards Streatham Hill.

Bang out of order.
You are perfectly correct.
 
Got sent this today...

Re. The recent CPZ consultation in Streatham Hill.

For those in favour of a controlled parking zone on the East side of Streatham Hill (ABCD roads, etc) please consider responding to the enclosed petition ASAP as we’ve learned the matter is being discussed today, Friday 16th Feb (contrary to the end date on petition).

ePetition - Streatham Hill CPZ East Side to Tulse Hill | Lambeth Council

Whilst the recent CPZ consultation outlined proposals for a CPZ in a specified area of Streatham Hill, supported by 52.4% of respondents, the area has subsequently been divided into four distinct zones, with some zones - those on the West side of the A23 getting a statutory consultation and likely CPZ being introduced, but those on the East side not.

The creation of zones and intro of a CPZ on the West side, will only exacerbate the already hugely problematic parking situation on the East side. Even those on the East side, who voted against a CPZ, may have responded differently had they known that the nearby roads on the other side of the A23 would get a CPZ.

I understand and wholly respect that people’s views are split over the CPZ issue. But the fact remains that the consultation was misleading - not all the facts were outlined to residents before ‘votes’ were cast.

Let your voice be heard and please sign the petition ASAP if you feel the consultation was misleading and that the results should be reconsidered and based on the entire Streatham Hill area, as outlined in the consultation.
 
Got sent this today...

Re. The recent CPZ consultation in Streatham Hill.

For those in favour of a controlled parking zone on the East side of Streatham Hill (ABCD roads, etc) please consider responding to the enclosed petition ASAP as we’ve learned the matter is being discussed today, Friday 16th Feb (contrary to the end date on petition).

ePetition - Streatham Hill CPZ East Side to Tulse Hill | Lambeth Council

Whilst the recent CPZ consultation outlined proposals for a CPZ in a specified area of Streatham Hill, supported by 52.4% of respondents, the area has subsequently been divided into four distinct zones, with some zones - those on the West side of the A23 getting a statutory consultation and likely CPZ being introduced, but those on the East side not.

The creation of zones and intro of a CPZ on the West side, will only exacerbate the already hugely problematic parking situation on the East side. Even those on the East side, who voted against a CPZ, may have responded differently had they known that the nearby roads on the other side of the A23 would get a CPZ.

I understand and wholly respect that people’s views are split over the CPZ issue. But the fact remains that the consultation was misleading - not all the facts were outlined to residents before ‘votes’ were cast.

Let your voice be heard and please sign the petition ASAP if you feel the consultation was misleading and that the results should be reconsidered and based on the entire Streatham Hill area, as outlined in the consultation.
Everybody's getting a CPZ whether they like it or not if not in this batch of "consultation" then in the next - it is easy revenue for the council. For the price of a couple of signs they get a couple of hundred quid a year from any resident with a car. With e-permits, ANPR and CCTV cars they even get a saving on expensive traffic wardens. Win-win.
 
The CPZ has made a huge difference for traffic/parking in our street since introduction. Where there used to be cars circling every morning for parking spaces, there are now plenty of spaces free every day. shows the volume of people who were commuting into Brixton by car.
 
The CPZ has made a huge difference for traffic/parking in our street since introduction. Where there used to be cars circling every morning for parking spaces, there are now plenty of spaces free every day. shows the volume of people who were commuting into Brixton by car.
Ditto. I was amazed. But I pay for off-street parking so now not only do I run the gauntlet of the private parking scum who can never see the permit, but when people park in my space I can't even park in the street. My life is spent fighting idiots.
 
I hate parking round this way. It’s going to be worth the £135 or whatever to get rid of the commuters. If I take my kids to school, there’s someone with their indicator on, waiting for me to drive out, a couple of minutes before I go. Then, when I get back, I have to park a five minute walk away. There must be some form of van mechanic nearby also because if you name the van type, refrigerated, minibus, flatbed, tipper, tow truck, they show up outside my front window periodically. At present it’s a Vauxhall Vivaro, half way up the kerb.

I think that there will need to be a certain number of pay and display machines, wardens enforcing the permits, new signage, roads painted, appeals staff so I don’t think it’s going to be a massive moneyspinner.
 
I think the sky sports sign on the white hart really improves the look of the area.

Does anyone know what the old hairdressers next to the coop will be?
 
hope it's better than the last one, the previous owner was rude to my wife when she got her hair done just before our wedding, and also when I went for a cut about the same time, she went off on one about the amount of hairdressers for afro-textured-hair in the surrounding area :( . Although we now use that one on the corner of Norwood High Street and that slip street to the station with the Portuguese place on, and it would have to be better (and cheaper) than that.
 
hope it's better than the last one, the previous owner was rude to my wife when she got her hair done just before our wedding, and also when I went for a cut about the same time, she went off on one about the amount of hairdressers for afro-textured-hair in the surrounding area :( . Although we now use that one on the corner of Norwood High Street and that slip street to the station with the Portuguese place on, and it would have to be better (and cheaper) than that.

Cosy Hair Salon - we started to use there too. My auntie had a lovely cut there so I took eldest daughter for her hairstyle change there and that went well too. They're cheap compared to everywhere else and friendly and also - it seems to be consistently booked up so clearly quite popular.
 
oh I've just realised that I know the owner of this new salon quite well through my daughter - it's a new branch of Shout Hair in Streatham and will be called Shout House. There's a launch party on March 3rd. ohmyliver - you may well know her too.
 
hope it's better than the last one, the previous owner was rude to my wife when she got her hair done just before our wedding, and also when I went for a cut about the same time, she went off on one about the amount of hairdressers for afro-textured-hair in the surrounding area :( . Although we now use that one on the corner of Norwood High Street and that slip street to the station with the Portuguese place on, and it would have to be better (and cheaper) than that.
She was a racist old trout. Was very unkind about people with MH issues too. Safe to say I didn’t go back in after my first interaction. But she’s dead now and the hairdressers is no more so...I recommend Jackie’s. Much older, established hairdressers and so much cheaper than Pop.
 
The CPZ has made a huge difference for traffic/parking in our street since introduction. Where there used to be cars circling every morning for parking spaces, there are now plenty of spaces free every day. shows the volume of people who were commuting into Brixton by car.

Made huge difference in Loughborough Junction. As the people on the estate have parking on estate they didn't kick up a fuss about it.

It's not only cleared the roads of parked cars but also the cars "for sale" and the cars/ vehicles left there by some garages.

I don't think it was purely decision by Council to make easy money. It's also about making public space less dominated by cars.

It might also dissuade people from driving into central London and use alternative transportation.

Loughborough Junction is special case. If the estate did not have onsite parking there would have been opposition by the car owning minority.
 
They have published what they are going to do with the controlled parking zone. Everything to the east of Streatham Hill (ABC roads, Palace Road etc) is not going to have it introduced whereas everything to the West (Sternhold, Telford Ave etc) will have it introduced.

They are going to put in some new double yellows and loading restrictions in the East of SH which means as well as commuters from the new CPZ area moving over, we will also have some currently legal parking displaced.

Fairly shite.
 
Lost mains water at some point this evening. Was outraged until a quick google told me that some of Streatham has been without for 2 days
 
Lost mains water at some point this evening. Was outraged until a quick google told me that some of Streatham has been without for 2 days

Large areas of South London and indeed parts of North London are out. We seem to be the only road in the area with water at the moment. I've filled a lot of pots and pans and the bath up. Several local schools have confirmed they're closing tomorrow and a few more warning of the possibility.
 
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