Tulse Hill news, chitter chatter and gossip

[Hoss]

This is horrendous. I cycled past as paramedics and cops were on scene but had no idea what had happened or the seriousness of it. I was running late yesterday because of the a shitty weather and normally would be going through about 6:45ish. Potentially would have caught this on my helmet cam.

The whole junction is horrible - vehicles coming around that corner often speed up to beat the light change or just jump the red anyway.

The poor woman and her family.

Hope that the drivers are found.

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[editor]

An event for Tulse Hillians:

 

[Maharani]

How do we know there were 4 vehicles involved?

 

[Nanker Phelge]

How do we know there were 4 vehicles involved?

From the cop's release

 

[Maharani]

Forensics of course.

 

[T & P]

It's likely witnesses might have also told police they saw four vehicles involved. And of course, the incident would have almost certainly been caught on camera.

 

[editor]

It's likely witnesses might have also told police they saw four vehicles involved. And of course, the incident would have almost certainly been caught on camera.

Sharp enough to catch the fucking bastards who run her over, I hope.

Is there any kind of community action coming up? A short blockade of the road with banners might do a good job of drawing attention to the ongoing dangers of the junction and reminding drivers to slow the fuck down.

 

[Nanker Phelge]

There's a cameraman and reporter out there now.....just wrapping up by the looks of it.....

 

[Smick]

Sharp enough to catch the fucking bastards who run her over, I hope.

Is there any kind of community action coming up? A short blockade of the road with banners might do a good job of drawing attention to the ongoing dangers of the junction and reminding drivers to slow the fuck down.

There are hundreds of thousands of vehicles every day. I think the only thing is to have police speed checks. Someone with a hairdryer speed gun on a regular basis.

 

[T & P]

There have long been plans to redesign the road layout and get rid of the one-way system. I think they had recently been pre-approved with a view of completing them by 2020. It can’t come quickly enough...

 

[DJWrongspeed]

I've had a leaflet through recently about the main South Circular junction. The website is so bad I can't find anything on it perhaps others can. They're hoping to start work on the gyratory in 2020 with a view of completion in 2021 . Perhaps the tragic events on Monday will move this along.

The accident was featured on the TV tonight. I'm sure the atrocious weather played some part in it but it's still very shocking.

 

[Nanker Phelge]

It wasn't atrocious weather. It was cold, and it was snowing/sleet/raining. It wasn't even icy. It wasn't great conditions, but hardly atrocious.

 

[Crispy]

I've had a leaflet through recently about the main South Circular junction. The website is so bad I can't find anything on it perhaps others can. They're hoping to start work on the gyratory in 2020 with a view of completion in 2021 . Perhaps the tragic events on Monday will move this along.

The accident was featured on the TV tonight. I'm sure the atrocious weather played some part in it but it's still very shocking.

As posted earlier, this is the general plan:



The junctions will need careful design to avoid conflicting movements. In all cases, traffic speed should be minimised. It certainly reduces the number of turns and lane changes that S.Circular traffic has to make, which will help a lot. My experience of driving the gyratory is nearly always one of pure terror as you have to get across 3-4 lanes of fast-moving traffic.

 

[editor]

It wasn't atrocious weather. It was cold, and it was snowing/sleet/raining. It wasn't even icy. It wasn't great conditions, but hardly atrocious.

And if it was "atrocious", all the more reason for drivers to slow right down and exercise more caution.

 

[oldandjaded]

So very sad.

I stopped cycling when I moved to the area and it takes a lot to stop me doing the things I enjoy.

I drive all around London and I find this free for all gyratory scary even after all these years

 

[T & P]

i've done the gyratory on a pushbike often enough, and if there is one place in the world to be as assertive as possible, this is it. I mean, really assertive.

IME it's the worst when you're travelling on Christchurch Road from Brixton Hill and enter the gyratory. Aside from the high speeds by all road users, the pronounced downhill slope and the very tight turn to enter the gyratory, as soon as you do so you have all traffic on your lane trying to join the right lane, and all the traffic on the right hand lane trying to join the left lane so they can turn into Tulse Hill towards Brixton. It's a free for all where nobody gives priority or even seems clear if anyone has priority.

Having said that, going uphill from Tulse Hill station is no picnic either, as one has reduced speed vs the speeding cars, and in particular if you need to take the right hand lane instead of going straight.

 

[Crispy]

I pity the poor 201 bus driver who has to carve across all three lanes from an uphill standing start.

 

[Smick]

i've done the gyratory on a pushbike often enough, and if there is one place in the world to be as assertive as possible, this is it. I mean, really assertive.

IME it's the worst when you're travelling on Christchurch Road from Brixton Hill and enter the gyratory. Aside from the high speeds by all road users, the pronounced downhill slope and the very tight turn to enter the gyratory, as soon as you do so you have all traffic on your lane trying to join the right lane, and all the traffic on the right hand lane trying to join the left lane so they can turn into Tulse Hill towards Brixton. It's a free for all where nobody gives priority or even seems clear if anyone has priority.

Having said that, going uphill from Tulse Hill station is no picnic either, as one has reduced speed vs the speeding cars, and in particular if you need to take the right hand lane instead of going straight.

When I have cycled that way, I’ve just got off the bike and used the zebra crossings.

 

[T & P]

Apparently two of the four drivers have now been found by the police:

Two drivers traced in fatal hit-and-run

The fact that they're appealing for dashcam footage from anyone in the area at the time sounds to me as if they do not have any existing CCTV footage that shows the number plates of the other two vehicles.

 

[Maharani]

I hope they burn the fuckers...how could they live with themselves in the first place is what I can’t fathom. Terrible if there’s no proper cctv footage either. They seem to have great footage for smaller offences. The cctv there should be top notch.

 

[Nanker Phelge]

Apparently two of the four drivers have now been found by the police:

Two drivers traced in fatal hit-and-run

The fact that they're appealing for dashcam footage from anyone in the area at the time sounds to me as if they do not have any existing CCTV footage that shows the number plates of the other two vehicles.

They have just shown the cctv images on the bbc and they are fucking shit blurry rubbish

 

[editor]

They have just shown the cctv images on the bbc and they are fucking shit blurry rubbish

Hopefully the vehicles will be picked up by other cameras along the way.

Police interviewed the 49-year-old male driver of the first lorry under caution and arrested the 52-year-old male driver of the second car on Tuesday.

He was detained on suspicion of causing death by careless driving and later released under investigation.

They're looking for drivers of a SUV and Mercedes. They must know what they did. The fucking wankers.

Fatal hit-and-run CCTV images issued

 

[T & P]

The CCTV footage looks to be coming from a private camera placed by the Co-Op. I'm astonished there appear to be no TFL/ local authority cameras monitoring the road at such a busy junction.

 

[sparkybird]

It looks like they have traced all 4 drivers.
I went past on Friday. So sad to see the flowers on the railings.
If this is where it took place, I could quite see how it is possible for someone to end up under a lorry. Of course we don't know what happened, but vehicles come very tight round that corner, accelerating up the hill. And some pedestrians stand right on the edge of the pavement.
I was driving there that morning about 30 mins after the accident and it was dark with sleety rain, not great visibility.
It also makes me realise that as a pedestrian wearing dark clothes as I often do, it can be difficult for drivers to see you

 

[Maharani]

I’m sure the visibility might have been poor but you know as a driver when you hit something small...let alone hitting a body. To not stop and to hit/drive over a body is pure vileness. I would love to know what was going through their minds right after they hit that poor lady.

 

[GarveyLives]

It's likely witnesses might have also told police they saw four vehicles involved. And of course, the incident would have almost certainly been caught on camera.

Fifth vehicle 'may have been involved' in Tulse Hill hit and run

 

[Maharani]

Fuck. And they’re relying on dashcam footage they don’t even know if anyone has? We really need to make a stand to at least have proper, efficient cctv there. Maybe a yougov petition? I’ll look into it.

 

[sparkybird]

I’m sure the visibility might have been poor but you know as a driver when you hit something small...let alone hitting a body. To not stop and to hit/drive over a body is pure vileness. I would love to know what was going through their minds right after they hit that poor lady.

Absolutely Maharani.

 

[oldandjaded]

Rip Justyna Kalandyk

Woman Hit By 4 Vehicles In Tulse Hill Fatal Hit And Run Pictured For The First Time

 

[editor]

This Friday:

It’s a Strummerville Xmas at the Railway Tavern, Tulse Hill, Friday 22nd Dec