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True detective. New hbo thang.

DotCommunist said:
The pairing with Harrelsons good old boy persona was hilarious 'I just want you to stop saying odd shit'.

I bailed after season 1 because I heard they were dropping the spooky elements so skipped srs 2 and 3 but I'm back for season 4. Strong opener last night.
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Yes, it was brilliantly observed and played - avoiding any sense of pretension. As was the bemused wide berth the other cops and wearily exasperated bosses gave the, obviously mad, Cohle even when he has sent in to 'break' their suspects.
 
That was a strong opening episde to season 4. Real life is worse than any horror that the supernatural or folklore might have to offer.

I wasn't keen on the CGI deer and one eyed polar bear. They took me right down to uncanny valley and back again. They were obviously not real. Reminded me of Polar Express.

Why you'd take The Thing on DVD to a science facility in Alaska is anyone's guess! Those scientists had a copy on the shelf. I can't imagine that's a good thing to watch out there. Saying that, Ferris Bueller on repeat would also send you running out in to a freezing abyss.

Anything set in dark, cold places with endless night always unsettles me. I was really feeling the claustrophobic weight of it watching this episode, and the Twin Peakishness only added to my overall discomfort.

The music is suitably depressing!
 
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I liked it, the relationships between characters felt real. I didn't want to watch it last night as I was too tired but Mrs SI seemed very excited, and three minutes in I was hooked. I don't mind the supernatural and weird elements, I'm just going to see where it all leads.
 
I think the supernatural aspects are all red herring. Like season 1.

The cult elements from season 1 might recur here, and corruption. Who needs ghosts when people have enough evil to go around?
 
Heard the name of this show before but always assummed it would be a generic cop show from the title.

Is it worth a watch?
 
Nanker Phelge said:
Yes - each season is a standalone story. I'd ignore season 2 because it doesn't really work, despite looking lovely and having some very good action sequences. The first one was some of the best TV HBO has made.
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Must be good then considering other shows they have made. Will give it a go. Cheers.
 
A very solid second episode. Nice storytelling, and with a Fargoesque element of weirdness to boot. Love it.
 
Great second episode highlighting some very strong links to season one and Matthew McConaughey's character Rustin Cohle.

Also

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We just watched Season 3 which was pretty good but maybe got a bit flabby towards the end. Quite enjoying the start of Season 4.

One little thing I spotted, there was a reference in S3 to an off-screen character called Adam Horowitz (one of the Beastie Boys). I thought it was a coincidence but there was another in the one we watched last night to a Chuck Moseley (Faith No More/Bad Brains) so I think they're dropping them in on purpose. A little one to look out for.
 
We’re watching S2, which like with the third we had not previously watched. Not as great as the first but decent enough so far.

And it has unexpectedly made me look at Vince Vaughn in a different way. He has always been for me one of those actors one finds unlikeable and annoying even though you consider him a good actor. Completely without foundation but there all the same.

But suddenly his excellent acting here and spot-on casting has made me realise the reason: every time I’ve seen him in a film he’d been in a comedy or worse, a romantic comedy. He just doesn’t have the kind of look for that anymore than Michael Ironside would as the main lead in a romcom. But I am finding him credible and even likeable here. How he ended up in so many cheesy comedies before this I’ll never know.
 
There's a part in the latest episode where
a moment of silence moves into song and then transitions to Jodie Foster's character listening to White Noise whilst poring over photos of a murdered Native woman.
A genuine "I know writers who use subtext and they're all cowards" moment, it's been my favourite thing so far in the series.
 
Really not feeling S4 to date. Yes Jodie Foster is great. It’s shot beautifully in the bleak noir landscape too. But, the core investigation barely gets a look in so far, there are loads of competing story arcs and the pacing seems off. The supernatural/horror is jarring too.

Hopefully it’ll pick up…

ETA Christopher Eccleston’s American accent is really bad as well.
 
Episode three trod some water. Exposition took over from moving the plot on and this slowed things down a fair bit.

Drinking from a Doolally tap makes people see weird shit in the dark.

Why would anyone live out there? I'd be off in a minute as soon as I was old enough to make up my own mind...
 
Given it is only 6 episodes in length, this 4th one felt like treading water and did little to develop the story. If demonstrating that Jodie Foster's character is a massive arsehole and hypocrite was the main point, then they made it really clearly; she's horrible. Otherwise, it's mostly filler and depressing melodrama pulling from one dark cold location to another.

I was watching the clock during this ep.
 
Monkeygrinder's Organ said:
We just watched Season 3 which was pretty good but maybe got a bit flabby towards the end. Quite enjoying the start of Season 4.

One little thing I spotted, there was a reference in S3 to an off-screen character called Adam Horowitz (one of the Beastie Boys). I thought it was a coincidence but there was another in the one we watched last night to a Chuck Moseley (Faith No More/Bad Brains) so I think they're dropping them in on purpose. A little one to look out for.
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I noticed the Chuck Mosely!
 
Nanker Phelge said:
Given it is only 6 episodes in length, this 4th one felt like treading water and did little to develop the story. If demonstrating that Jodie Foster's character is a massive arsehole and hypocrite was the main point, then they made it really clearly; she's horrible. Otherwise, it's mostly filler and depressing melodrama pulling from one dark cold location to another.

I was watching the clock during this ep.
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Me too. I couldn’t wait for it to end.

The plot development is so poor; instead we have a series of loosely connected scenes with poorly drawn characters appearing in them. The music is jarring and overplayed. The supernatural element is so in your face it's begun to get annoying.

I don’t actually care what happens now. To any of them.
 
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Johnny Vodka said:
So not worth getting a Now subscription for S4?
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Not based on this episode, and the unlikely event that they can pull it back in two episodes.

All the promise of the first two episodes has yet to pay off. They think they are being clever throwing in call backs to series one, but it doesn't feel like that's going to amount to much. I getting the feeling that was an after thought in the writing process.

There is a story about big corrupts industries and small resource rich communities begging to happen here, but it's too late in the show for it have any teeth now.

Jodie Foster's character is a good detective in the first episode, by this one she's just a twat who's a bit thick.
 
Smokeandsteam said:
Me too. I couldn’t wait for it to end.

The plot development is so poor; instead we have a series of loosely connected scenes with poorly drawn characters appearing in them. The music is jarring and overplayed. The supernatural element is so in your face it's begun to get annoying.

I don’t actually care what happens now. To any of them.
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Is it me, or does the young chap do all the detecting off screen and then phone up Jodie Foster with info on the next scene for her to go to and gnaw on?
 
The first two episodes were great and intriguing, the third a big letdown. Yesterday’s was an improvement on the third but still well below the first two.

I had assumed this would be an eight-episode season like the others, so the slow plot-advancing nature of the last two episodes is even more puzzling.

Loving the hints at a supernatural element. I hope they wrap it up properly in the remaining episodes.
 
I like the setting and the characters but the central mystery doesn't interest me as much.

It really suffers from coming right after Fargo 5 which was about as good as this kind of telly gets, and which managed to weave supernatural threads into human drama in a much less heavy-handed way.
 
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