Tribe meets white people for the first time (1976)

[Johnny Canuck3]

"White man come - steal great Kong!"


































Ok, maybe that was a tad triumphalist.

 

[lizzieloo]

The filmaker is a great big rascist, obviously.

Don't you think that maybe everyone filming and being filmed might have been in on the joke?

 

[Yossarian]

Gah the fucking French is all I can say. http://www.rue89.com/2011/06/23/crainte-et-curiosite-premiere-rencontre-avec-des-hommes-blancs-210642

Good find - seen as "Papuans punk Belgian filmmaker," that clip's got some moments of high comedy...

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

Don't you think that maybe everyone filming and being filmed might have been in on the joke?

I think everyone there was aware that there were no 'lost tribesmen' present at the film shoot.

 

[lizzieloo]

I think everyone there was aware that there were no 'lost tribesmen' present at the film shoot.

So it's racist then?

I just know a certain someone will be along soon having searched for the term 'racist'

I get where you're coming from, I just think they were all having a laugh if it was faked.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

The filmaker is a great big rascist, obviously.

Don't you think that maybe everyone filming and being filmed might have been in on the joke?

Of course they were.

As to whether or not the filmmaker is a great big racist, well, David Attenborough's perspective on it is very different. He specifically says that trying to impress with 'conjuring tricks' of technology is 'tawdry and trivial'. I have to say on reflection that he's dead right, and in the light of that, this film, even if it was done with good intentions, is itself tawdry and trivial in that it displays the Europeans in a bad light, showing off their conjuring tricks and implicitly asserting their superiority, their difference, where Atenborough wished to assert their shared bond.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

I'd like to have seen the original version, where the intrepid explorers end up strangled at the end of the clip.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

So it's racist then?

I just know a certain someone will be along soon having searched for the term 'racist'

I get where you're coming from, I just think they were all having a laugh if it was faked.

It's fine if people know it's a fake, done for a joke. Then the bad mugging done by the 'natives' is just part of the joke.

But if you try to pass it off as fact, then some credulous people out there will watch it and think that that's how indigenous people act.

 

[quimcunx]

Oh, fuck off. Not everybody is as gullible as you.

Now, now, Johnny. Think of your blood pressure.





Does this mean the cute guy is available then?

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

That's why I posted that still from King Kong. We can laugh at it, because it's fiction, and grossly caricaturized fiction at that. But if someone tried to pass the 'native village' scenes off as reality, then that does a gross injustice to the actual aboriginals of New Guinea etc.

 

[lizzieloo]

Of course they were.

As to whether or not the filmmaker is a great big racist, well, David Attenborough's perspective on it is very different. He specifically says that trying to impress with 'conjuring tricks' of technology is 'tawdry and trivial'. I have to say on reflection that he's dead right, and in the light of that, this film, even if it was done with good intentions, is itself tawdry and trivial in that it displays the Europeans in a bad light, showing off their conjuring tricks and implicitly asserting their superiority, their difference, where Atenborough wished to assert their shared bond.

So Papua New Guinea tribes folk aren't allowed to have a laugh at the expense of gullible people like me?

ETA:

It's fine if people know it's a fake, done for a joke. Then the bad mugging done by the 'natives' is just part of the joke.

But if you try to pass it off as fact, then some credulous people out there will watch it and think that that's how indigenous people act.

OK, get ya. The filmaker does maintain that it is indeed fact.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

You make a good point, jc3.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

Now, now, Johnny. Think of your blood pressure.





Does this mean the cute guy is available then?

If I ask you to fuck off, whose blood pressure is going to go up: mine, or yours?

Is he available?

Maybe. If you watch this documentary,

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0206187/

the author will have you believing that those papuan guys are all switch hitters.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

So Papua New Guinea tribes folk aren't allowed to have a laugh at the expense of gullible people like me?

ETA:



OK, get ya. The filmaker does maintain that it is indeed fact.

Cool!

So can we stop arguing now and get back to dancing?

 

[lizzieloo]

Cool!

So can we stop arguing now and get back to dancing?

No, not if youtube have anything to do with it

 

[purves grundy]

There's plenty of first contact footage around. I remember seeing some B&W stuff filmed in the 1940s in Papua.

 

[dilute micro]

There's plenty of first contact footage around. I remember seeing some B&W stuff filmed in the 1940s in Papua.

I sure hope no one was looking into the camera lens. Because cameras look like rocks. And who looks at rocks with a wtf expression on their face?

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

Is no one at all curious why this 35 year old footage only appeared on the internet yesterday?

I believe I questioned its authenticity in post #2.

 

[xes]

can a mod please change the title to something along the lines of.....some tribes dudes, and some white dudes, possibly from this century, possibly from the last. Who may or may not have been intrigued by our technology from what ever time the technology was presented to them in, they also were confused by mirrors"

Thank you.

I'm going into the garden for a spliffette. You lot hurt my head.

 

[xes]

http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/hoax/Hoaxipedia/Stone_Age_Tasaday/
see, even when I post normal stuff, it turns out to be bollocks