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Travelling from the UK to the USA with a criminal record

TruXta said:
In either case if the poster in question was arrested, he should also have been booked. And this should be on the records.
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Actually, I'm wrong. It's to log someone detained after arrest. Which doesn't help clear up whether this fella was arrested or not as he wasn't detained.

Apologies!
 
thanks for the response people. I must add i was not handcuffed by the police. It was the hotel security that done that before the police arrived
 
james smith said:
thanks for the response people. I must add i was not handcuffed by the police. It was the hotel security that done that before the police arrived
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And you were released after the police showed up? Chances are you weren't arrested then. But - AGAIN - try and check with the local PD.
 
Yeah, police asked me questions, took photo of id, search etc. But in the end they let me go and the security hotel guy then read me out the 'do not enter our hotels/trespassing' speach.
I think i am fine, it was more to find out if they would have logged it even if i was not arrested and if that could show up anywhere when i go to enter the US again.
 
james smith said:
Yeah, police asked me questions, took photo of id, search etc. But in the end they let me go and the security hotel guy then read me out the 'do not enter our hotels/trespassing' speach.
I think i am fine, it was more to find out if they would have logged it even if i was not arrested and if that could show up anywhere when i go to enter the US again.
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Probably logged in the operational log-book or whatever the fuck they call it, which is not the same as having a record.
 
hi just looking for an opinion please i have a conviction for abh and a dui and a caution for a minor drug offence. from what ive read on here a visa seems unlikely anyone no the chances of getting found out if i just lie on the esta? thanks.
 
But can't we just have a definitive statement and leave it at that? Rather than having to do the definitive statement weekly??!!
 
yeah but every single one of them think that they or their story/reason are different

and Trashy tried a while ago to make it beyond clear that the advice was the same and it wasn't going to change
 
JAN 2012
trashpony said:
Seeing as this thread has been bumped, I am going to post again what I posted in August because of the flurry of PMs I've had recently from randoms. Even if you send me a really, really nice PM, my advice isn't going to change and I can't be arsed to reply to each of you individually.
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the advice in bold
Look, this is all very simple. If you want to be turned back at immigration, declare on the ESTA. If you don't, don't. They really don't have the database from hell where they can cross reference every time you smoked a spliff.

You are the very last person I'm telling this to because after seven fucking years of people joining the boards to ask this question and for no other reason I have entirely lost patience. Read the sodding board. The answer is there. It's not going to change however much the nitty gritty details of your question do.
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EDIT: None of what you read in this post is meant as fact, it is something I read elsewhere and commented on here.

These changes have not been made and may never be made, thank you :)

ESTA, (Electronic System for Travel Authorization FAQ) could be changed soon. I read elsewhere that the TSA, Transportation Security Administration and others want some changes made to the ESTA program.

One of the changes is something called a "good character report". For citizens of the UK, my understanding is, it would mean people authorized to travel via the ESTA from the UK (Visa Waiver Program) may have to take with them a current copy of their "subject access request" (which I think is like a personal CRB, available via the data protection act from your local police). This will apparently, speed up your entry to the USA :hmm:

They also want access to the Disclosure and Barring Service computer systems (Criminal Records Bureau), if this is forthcoming they may allow visas issued online for countries who give them the access they want.
 
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1%er said:
ESTA, (Electronic System for Travel Authorization FAQ) could be changed soon. I read elsewhere that the TSA, Transportation Security Administration and others want some changes made to the ESTA program.

One of the changes is something called a "good character report". For citizens of the UK, my understanding is, it would mean people authorized to travel via the ESTA from the UK (Visa Waiver Program) may have to take with them a current copy of their "subject access request" (which I think is like a personal CRB, available via the data protection act from your local police). This will apparently, speed up your entry to the USA :hmm:

They also want access to the Disclosure and Barring Service computer systems (Criminal Records Bureau), if this is forthcoming they may allow visas issued online for countries who give them the access they want.
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Where did you read that?

Seems pretty unlikely - tourist dollars are pretty important for much of the US
 
trashpony said:
Where did you read that?

Seems pretty unlikely - tourist dollars are pretty important for much of the US
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On a different forum.

What is unlikely? I'm not sure how it would effect "tourist dollars".

I'm sure they just see it as closing a glaring loophole in security and speeding up visa issue
 
1%er said:
On a different forum.

What is unlikely? I'm not sure how it would effect "tourist dollars".

I'm sure they just see it as closing a glaring loophole in security and speeding up visa issue
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Have you thought about the cost and manpower involved in this? It's nonsensical
 
trashpony said:
Have you thought about the cost and manpower involved in this? It's nonsensical
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How would it increase costs and manpower?

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I think maybe you have misunderstood what I have written or I haven't explained it very well.

The first change I mentioned was the subject access request, the cost of which is 10 uk pounds to the person traveling and closes a loophole.

If they get access to the Disclosure and Barring Service computer systems it will do away with the need for ESTA
 
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1%er said:
How would it increase costs and manpower?
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It would mean people authorized to travel via the ESTA from the UK (Visa Waiver Program) may have to take with them a current copy of their "subject access request" (which I think is like a personal CRB, available via the data protection act from your local police). This will apparently, speed up your entry to the USA :hmm:
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Do you not think there are costs and manpower associated with the police providing 'a personal CRB' to every single person who is thinking of travelling to the US? The police currently charge a tenner for a SAR but if you need a police certificate to get a visa 'The fee is £45 to get the certificate within 10 working days and £80 for a 2 day premium service'

They also want access to the Disclosure and Barring Service computer systems (Criminal Records Bureau), if this is forthcoming they may allow visas issued online for countries who give them the access they want.
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Why would they want this if what you say above is true?

Why would any country give another country access to their police records?

I'd really like to see some evidence of this bar 'I read it on another forum' because it sounds like paranoid bollocks to me
 
trashpony said:
Do you not think there are costs and manpower associated with the police providing 'a personal CRB' to every single person who is thinking of travelling to the US? The police currently charge a tenner for a SAR but if you need a police certificate to get a visa 'The fee is £45 to get the certificate within 10 working days and £80 for a 2 day premium service'


Why would they want this if what you say above is true?

Why would any country give another country access to their police records?

I'd really like to see some evidence of this bar 'I read it on another forum' because it sounds like paranoid bollocks to me
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Hold on I haven't said this is going to happen, I said the TSA want changes.

You agree there is a massive loophole with the ESTA don't you?

my edit above answers the other points
 
1%er said:
Hold on I haven't said this is going to happen, I said the TSA want changes.

You agree there is a massive loophole with the ESTA don't you?

my edit above answers the other points
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But before the ESTA, you had a little form to fill in on the plane where you lied. Now you lie electronically.

Given the nearly 500 posts on this thread, a lot of people (despite their career criminal status :hmm:) don't feel able to lie very convincingly.

Yes, there's a big loophole in the fact that they rely on people's honesty. But really, they're letting in people who've committed minor crimes for a holiday. I'd imagine it suits them very well to have this loophole because otherwise they are closing off a lot of potential revenue. I can entirely imagine they don't want my sort as a US resident and the current system ensures that will never happen. But do I pose a national security risk if I go on holiday? Of course not.

ETA: Unless you can provide a source for your so far baseless assertions, I don't think there's much point in discussing it!
 
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