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Travelling from the UK to the USA with a criminal record

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My boyfriend & I have booked New York for new year. My boyfriend has a criminal record for gbh and one was recently. He applied for his esta and that was accepted as he ticked no for having been arrested for moral turpitude. BUT we then found out that if you had a criminal record the esta doesn't count. So he applied for a visa and had an interview in the us embassy today in London and his visa was declined as he did not prove he had enough ties in the uk. Will this automatically flag up on the US computer systems at the airport if we do go? And will he be sent back home? I know we should have just gone with the esta approval but it's too late for that now. I just need to know if we have brought more attention to ourselves by applying for a visa and getting declined. Any help would be amazing :)
 
Ps they didn't stamp his passport to say he has been refused entry? Although they may have logged it in the chip part of the passport? Any ideas??:hmm:
 
Ps they didn't stamp his passport to say he has been refused entry? Although they may have logged it in the chip part of the passport? Any ideas??:hmm:
He'll definitely be in the US Customs database as "denied visa" or whatever their term is, and WILL NOT gain entry. He shouldn't have done the visa application, they more than likely would have let him in on the ESTA. C'est la vie.
 
Oh no way :facepalm: It does say he can re apply but I think it's just a money making scam and the chances are slim that they will change their mind although he has many ties in the uk! So annoying
 
hes in the system now and best not try to sneak in - if hes serious, then maybe bring in a lawyer to beef up his case and reapply. S'not going to be cheap tho'
 
Oh no way :facepalm: It does say he can re apply but I think it's just a money making scam and the chances are slim that they will change their mind although he has many ties in the uk! So annoying

:rolleyes: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=us+visa+denial

Maybe the reapplication process isn't a scam, maybe it's provided for idiots who don't do their homework and mess up their first application. Now that he's been denied a visa he cannot get in with an ESTA ever. Don't even think about trying to get on the plane. If the denial letter says he may "apply for a waiver of ineligibility" and he was denied because of reasons 214(b) or 221(g) and he really does have many ties to the UK he can reapply successfully as soon as he can get his shit together. Try phoning the consular office on Monday morning and ask how long it takes.
 
Have you been denied, or are you just outraged at the ruining of someone's holiday etc, above?
No I've been on their soil years ago, little desire to go back tbh. If I did I would lie my arse off to get a visa, cos growing weed is moral turpitude I think.

They're cunts regardless of that anyway. Just in a bad mood tbh, felt like venting and calling some random targets cunts. So here I am :)
 
I lived there for a bit when I was young. Would like to go back at some point but I will have to lie.
 
Hello!! I really need some advice please!!
My partner was arrested for a very minor drugs crime around 3 years ago. He had been to America before the arrest with no problems. I went straight for the b2 holiday visa (silly me) he went to London in February 2013 and got declined. We only want to go to Vegas or New York for 5 nights over Christmas! Is there anything he can do ? Is it worth applying for an esta! Really need some logical advice! Thanks in advance!
 
Hello!! I really need some advice please!!
My partner was arrested for a very minor drugs crime around 3 years ago. He had been to America before the arrest with no problems. I went straight for the b2 holiday visa (silly me) he went to London in February 2013 and got declined. We only want to go to Vegas or New York for 5 nights over Christmas! Is there anything he can do ? Is it worth applying for an esta! Really need some logical advice! Thanks in advance!

As per the rest of the advice on this thread - no, you're almost certainly screwed.

Go somewhere else on holiday.
 
Will he ever be allowed to go? Will the esta get declined? And do they most definitely turn you away? Even for a few day trip? Thanks
As per the rest of the advice on this thread - no, you're almost certainly screwed.

Go somewhere else on holiday.
 
Will he ever be allowed to go? Will the esta get declined? And do they most definitely turn you away? Even for a few day trip? Thanks

Almost certainly. And I would guess he won't be able to go ever, but I'm not an expert. I wouldn't risk it if it was me. It's a long way to go to get turned back - and a lot of money wasted.
 
Thanks for your reply! They said try again in a few years? Is it worth just doing the esta again in a few years instead? Really wish I hadn't gone through the embassy now :-(

Almost certainly. And I would guess he won't be able to go ever, but I'm not an expert. I wouldn't risk it if it was me. It's a long way to go to get turned back - and a lot of money wasted.
 
Thanks for your reply! They said try again in a few years? Is it worth just doing the esta again in a few years instead? Really wish I hadn't gone through the embassy now :-(

I can't imagine the ESTA would be valid, so you run the risk of being turned away at the border. Of course none of us know how joined up their system is, so there's a chance you might be OK, but that's a big risk. Up to you if you can afford the loss/disappointment.
 
I can't imagine the ESTA would be valid, so you run the risk of being turned away at the border. Of course none of us know how joined up their system is, so there's a chance you might be OK, but that's a big risk. Up to you if you can afford the loss/disappointment.
what would be even worse would be being forced through their borders and locked up for an immigration crime
 
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