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Torchwood: Miracle Day

i think the 5 episodes over a week format worked really well for torchwood. none of the "cliff hangers" from this series have been strong enough to keep interest for 7 days. when it was only 24 hours between episodes it was much easier to keep enthusiasam for the storyline. i happily rewatched all the CoE episodes in one go a few months after they had been broadcast and they kept my interest throughout. with miracle day , there is so much filler that i cant imagine wanting to be bothered to rewatch them, even though by a thur eve i have forgotten most of what happened in the previous episode
 
I keep watching in case this flabby, formulaic imposter steps aside to reveal the real deal but it's a depressing experience. I've no idea what's supposed to be happening and fear the writer doesn't know at this point either.

I'm reminded of Lost; eventually I realised that my bafflement was intentional but it was supposed to lend an air of mystery. It lent an air of incompetence and lack of direction which, while it may be an accurate reflection of real life, doesn't make for an interesting story.
 
the biggest problem i had was it seems to be lowest common denominator plot.

it tries to hard to be dark and edgy but then leaps into comedy and cliche.

the whole camps thing is preety much a re-run of CoE but that one did it better.

it's surprising how much can happen while at the same time nothing happens. the last two fucking episodes have been them visiting a camp. that's two goddamn hours. i have whole movies or OVA series that have less runtime than that.
 
i agree tbh. i like it to a certain extent and thought last week's episode was probably the best so far, but the whole series just isn't tight enough all round imo. the acting needs to be better, the script needs a bit of work, half the screentime should be cut and they need to cut down on most of the camp twee-ness. i'll watch the rest of it, as there's some good stuff in there, but it would have been much better as a 6 episode series.
 
strung out said:
i agree tbh. i like it to a certain extent and thought last week's episode was probably the best so far, but the whole series just isn't tight enough all round imo. the acting needs to be better, the script needs a bit of work, half the screentime should be cut and they need to cut down on most of the camp twee-ness. i'll watch the rest of it, as there's some good stuff in there, but it would have been much better as a 6 episode series.
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This says it all really.
 
Shippou-Sensei said:
the biggest problem i had was it seems to be lowest common denominator plot.

it tries to hard to be dark and edgy but then leaps into comedy and cliche.

the whole camps thing is preety much a re-run of CoE but that one did it better.

it's surprising how much can happen while at the same time nothing happens. the last two fucking episodes have been them visiting a camp. that's two goddamn hours. i have whole movies or OVA series that have less runtime than that.
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^^this

but without the weird japanese shit that probably involves robot cat maids having sex with octopuss like alines that emerge from a gaishias crotch
 
Nothing happened for a whole episode then gwen magically found a motorbike and some bombs and blew someplace up. Roll credits. This should never have been allowed near yankeeland
 
Shippou-Sensei said:
kiss kiss bang bang was a good episode



if only for the over the topness

plus less of the other charactors
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That turned me on far to much for having just got up plus i haven't heard that song for aaaages :D

I have only seen one episode of Torchwood, the first one of the current series and it was one of the silliest things I have ever seen :)
 
geeks among us recall the shame of spotting every buffy reference in the episodes of torchwood that had spike in them. bad times
 
strung out said:
the acting needs to be better
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Most of the acting is okay. Except for that stupid puppy faced yankee soldier, who is one of the most absurd characters yet, and, of course, Barrowman himself. Stick to musical theatre love, you can't do straight acting to save your life.
 
That episode was cack, nothing but irrelevant filler and a waste of time, a good editor could have gotten this down to 4 episodes.

However US shows generally run for a longer season so filler episodes seem to be acceptable there. I'll watch next week's but if there's no improvement I'm capable of not watching it with only 3 to go.
 
DotCommunist said:
Nothing happened for a whole episode then gwen magically found a motorbike and some bombs and blew someplace up. Roll credits. This should never have been allowed near yankeeland
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Well, she didn't "magically find some bombs", she found an ammo case of plastique (more common than you'd think, because it's a lot better for boiling a brew than standard hexane blocks) and dets, but yeah. Torchwood is being made to appeal to a US market, which means a 10-13 episode season rather than someting more compact.
 
belboid said:
Most of the acting is okay. Except for that stupid puppy faced yankee soldier, who is one of the most absurd characters yet, and, of course, Barrowman himself. Stick to musical theatre love, you can't do straight acting to save your life.
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Puppy-faced?

I thought he'd had a stroke!
 
Not much really. TBH I'm thinkng of buying the series on DVD and watching at least 3 of the recent episodes at quadruple speed.
 
But in the trailer for last weeks, that welsh lady was saying something about finding out the real reason for miracle day, and heavily implying that there would be some sort of reveal.
 
ATOMIC SUPLEX said:
But in the trailer for last weeks, that welsh lady was saying something about finding out the real reason for miracle day, and heavily implying that there would be some sort of reveal.
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that might be next weeks episode, I don't bother watching the bit telling you what happens next week ( because if this weeks episode was good enough I should want to continue watching on the strength of that not a 1 minute clip of the best bits from next week)
 
ATOMIC SUPLEX said:
But in the trailer for last weeks, that welsh lady was saying something about finding out the real reason for miracle day, and heavily implying that there would be some sort of reveal.
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The really big reveal was... da du daaaah...that there was no one human behind it all. It seems to have been masterminded on a worldwide scale for at least 5 years, incredibly well hidden, and what they're trying to figure out now is "the Blessing". Claimed to be a term of some importance in the early 1990s and then allegedly no further trace of it. Can you give me a "bathos" Brothers and Sisters?
 
I hate the US style spoilers of the next episode why the hell would I want to know key plot points out of context to see the damn thing before I can see the Damn thing... grow up america...

still at least it'll be as a DL tonight when it airs on stars before bbc... anyone else feel as a licence payer who's paid for this the preview shouldn't be happening in the states before us... I mean we've paid for it and they get it before we do... wtf bbc...
 
Greebo said:
The really big reveal was... da du daaaah...that there was no one human behind it all. It seems to have been masterminded on a worldwide scale for at least 5 years, incredibly well hidden, and what they're trying to figure out now is "the Blessing". Claimed to be a term of some importance in the early 1990s and then allegedly no further trace of it. Can you give me a "bathos" Brothers and Sisters?
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silence will fall...

I think moffit story arch...
 
GarfieldLeChat said:
I hate the US style spoilers of the next episode why the hell would I want to know key plot points out of context to see the damn thing before I can see the Damn thing... grow up america...

still at least it'll be as a DL tonight when it airs on stars before bbc... anyone else feel as a licence payer who's paid for this the preview shouldn't be happening in the states before us... I mean we've paid for it and they get it before we do... wtf bbc...
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We haz internet, so we only have to wait a few hours ffs.

*shrugs*
 
GarfieldLeChat said:
<snip> anyone else feel as a licence payer who's paid for this the preview shouldn't be happening in the states before us... I mean we've paid for it and they get it before we do... wtf bbc...
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Yes. And FFS get rid of the trailers - no point ending on a cliffhanger and then following it with spoilers.
 
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