The woes of USB-C audio on mobile phones - and is the jack coming back?
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I bought the note 9, partially because it solves my problems with Ppt when I'm out and about, but partially because it has a headphone jack.
Lacking the latter would probably have been a deal killer, more so as lonely nights in hotel rooms are slightly less boring with a nice collection of films on my ridiculous 512gb of internal memory and a pair of simple wired headphones to listen on.
Edit - Off topic.
I find aircraft headsets uncomfortable so I bought an adaptor and use a pair of cheap but reasonable wired earbuds. Way better and nothing in weight or size.
Lacking the latter would probably have been a deal killer, more so as lonely nights in hotel rooms are slightly less boring with a nice collection of films on my ridiculous 512gb of internal memory and a pair of simple wired headphones to listen on.
Edit - Off topic.
I find aircraft headsets uncomfortable so I bought an adaptor and use a pair of cheap but reasonable wired earbuds. Way better and nothing in weight or size.
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hiraethified
If you've nothing useful to add, don't act like a prick and post up moronic images.
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The $5 ones from JetBlue not only came in a pretty case (that I've already repurposed) but sounded good enough to become my back up pair for my bag.
JetBlue's best deal sells for just five bucks - Global Nerdy - Joey deVilla's mobile/tech blog
Given they were from a market, JBL is probably a lie, but they work well.
The mobile just gets its supplied headphones
The mobile just gets its supplied headphones
Saul Goodman
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It was an attempt to match your moronic anecdotes.
Saul Goodman
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What next, every pair of shoes should have a built-in phone, in case you accidentally leave your phone at home? 
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hiraethified
I'm banning you off this thread and issuing a warning, under Rule One of this site: don't be a dick.What next, every pair of shoes should have a built-in phone, in case you accidentally leave your phone at home?
binka
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Earlier in the thread you said you don't see the problem and don't know why anyone would have an issue with it. Excuse me for misinterpreting that as you thinking its a good thing
Saul Goodman
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A warning for pointing out the obvious
Well done you.
Well done you.
Saul Goodman
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It's progression. Things progress. Life goes on.Earlier in the thread you said you don't see the problem and don't know why anyone would have an issue with it. Excuse me for misinterpreting that as you thinking its a good thing
binka
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So you do think it's better then? Make your mind up
UnderOpenSky
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I remember people getting very upset when computers started to lose their floppy drives. It was frustrating for a little bit, but we got over it.
Saul Goodman
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Progression doesn't necessarily mean better, or worse. It means progression.
I wonder if there are people here who cry over their stack of old SD cards, and vilify phone manufacturers for daring to move to a different format.
Things change, if you don't like it, write a strongly worded letter to the manufacturer, and see how far it gets you.
binka
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Progress is an improved or better state than previous. Something can be new without being progress
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hiraethified
But this isn't the same thing is it? Floppy drives were unreliable and had very limited storage, so the advantages of using other storage methods were crystal clear. Now explain to me the amazing advantages of releasing a phone (or a laptop) that doesn't have a earphone socket.
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UnderOpenSky
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I hate that new laptops don't have a CD drive.
I love how skinny my Chromebook is, there's no way you could that with a drive in there. Swings and roundabouts I guess. I can't remember the last time I used a CD.
UnderOpenSky
baseline neural therapy
It didnt seem so cut and dried at the time. Floppy drives were a standard, rewriteable CDs were even more unreliable and Zip and USB drives were expensive. We coped though.
Bluetooth headphones will keep getting cheaper. Mine were 15 quid, sound quality is fine for me and the battery life is epic.
Edit: I'd rather save my ire for built in batteries. Not that I want to carry spares, but so it's a cheap job to swap it in 18 months.
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hiraethified
I'm all for Bluetooth earphones. But you've yet to come up with a reason why removing an earphone jack offers any advantages at all.
UnderOpenSky
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I'll pass on that one as I honestly don't know. I assume it has some design advantages though, just saying that give it a few years and we will wonder why we were so bothered.
I'm sure they will get the problems with USB buds sorted for those who prefer cables.
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That's because the only 'advantage' is about 0.2mm extra slimness, or whatever. Oh, and lots more sales of Bluetooth earphones to replace the perfectly good wired ones and a roaring trade in battery replacement. I'm pretty sure there'll be plenty of wired headphones around in a few years too.
UnderOpenSky
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Yeah. The slimness thing is bizarre. As soon as get a phone it in a case as I'm sure most do.
More upsettingly I don't think it's a roaring trade in battery replacement, but just feeding into this cycle of replacing perfectly working phones.
Not convinced about about the doing it to sell more buds. Maybe some Apple fans will buy theirs, but most android owners aren't going to buy the same brand as their phone. They'll probably get a cheap pair of Toa Tronincs from Amazon...
My new phone (Xiaomi Mi A2 Lite) has a 3.5mm headphone socket
UnderOpenSky
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My new phone (Xiaomi Mi A2 Lite) has a 3.5mm headphone socket
My Nokia 8 does as well. I've yet to have one that doesn't, but guess the time will come.
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hiraethified
Most likely Bluetooth earphones - and all their additional circuitry and batteries - will just add up to even more electronic shit that gets thrown away unto landfill when the batteries conk out.
keybored
Well done. You remember cat good.
I don't yet own any wireless earphones but for me (and since the days of the Sony Walkman) the most common cause of failure in wired earphones by far has been the wires themselves (stress over time causing the wire to break internally). I'm lucky if I have a set last 2 years so swapping the cause of failure isn't a big deal.
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But having the option for wired earphones as well has to be the best all round solution, no? I wonder how long the battery life of equally used Bluetooth earphones might fare after 2 years.
Bluetooth can be very useful - I have a set, but the things are no use for long term as the ruddy batteries run down half way through what you're doing (sod's law).
The headphone jack is extremely useful, not just for headphones but also for external speakers or stuffing into a hifi if I'm that way inclined.
Easy and quick, and all with standard cables.
Of course bluetooth works, and works well, but removing the socket is a bad idea when that little hole is so popular ..... and so useful..
The new Samsung Tab S5 is USB audio - that's a deal killer for me as I use tabs for presentations, but many of my sites have old projectors so I have to connect using VGA and use the 3.5 mm for audio.
No 3.5, no audio, no good.
No 3.5, no audio, no good.
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