The Wire comes to BBC2 (Spoiler free, please)

[8den]

I've only just starting watching this.

I've obviously missed loads of episodes. I have no idea what's going on.

Minnie stop, seriously, download it, or if you're desperate I'll lend you my boxed sets*

*If you promise to give them back.

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

Minnie stop, seriously, download it, or if you're desperate I'll lend you my boxed sets*

*If you promise to give them back.

I take it I need to really watch from the beginning then?

 

[DotCommunist]

I take it I need to really watch from the beginning then?

oh yes.

it's not forgiving to casual viewers. David Simon (creator/writer) actually said 'fuck the casual viewer'

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

oh yes.

it's not forgiving to casual viewers. David Simon (creator/writer) actually said 'fuck the casual viewer'

How much have I missed?

The first episode I saw was some girl getting her face slashed in a class?

They showed about 3 episodes in a row last night but I videod them but that means I had to watch them without sub-titles

 

[DotCommunist]

How much have I missed?

The first episode I saw was some girl getting her face slashed in a class?

They showed about 3 episodes in a row last night but I videod them but that means I had to watch them without sub-titles

yeah you've missed series one two and three.

Fuckloads.

borrow the mans boxed sets and then you can have subtitles too

 

[maomao]

How much have I missed?

The first episode I saw was some girl getting her face slashed in a class?

They showed about 3 episodes in a row last night but I videod them but that means I had to watch them without sub-titles

They're a few episodes into series 4. That means you've got nearly 40 unwatched episodes.

 

[8den]

I take it I need to really watch from the beginning then?

Imagine an immensely thick novel. Now imagine five of them. You've stepped into chapter 3 of the 4th book.

Put it another away, the two creators of the wire spent 25 years between working the crime desk of Baltimore Sun, and as a Homicide cop. The Journalist went on to spend a year tailing the Baltimore Homicide department and a year on a Corner following the lives of addicts, resulting in two 600 page factual books, while the cop became a teacher in the Baltimore school district. They worked on a TV series called "Homicide", all this was the distilling process that went into the creation of The Wire.

Minnie I'm series about the Wire, I'll lend it to you, for nothing else, you need to hear the tail of poor "Snot Boogie" and how he kicked this all off.

 

[8den]

oh yes.

it's not forgiving to casual viewers. David Simon (creator/writer) actually said 'fuck the casual viewer'

I fucking adore that quote. If every tv writer in the world had that written on their walls, the world would be a better place.

I'm working in ITV at the moment, and the sheer fucking idiocy about their audience demography beggars believe, it's like they're making idiotic poorly written drama because people want this.

 

[moonsi til]

Just finished final episode of final series...no spoilers from me but I just wanted to share where I have been.

Going to take me a while to figure some of this out before I go back for round 2 with S1.

The Wire is also the only TV series my BF has ever watched. I rented S1 from LOVEfilm and got him hooked then we bought the others from amazon.

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

yeah you've missed series one two and three.

Fuckloads.

borrow the mans boxed sets and then you can have subtitles too

They're a few episodes into series 4. That means you've got nearly 40 unwatched episodes.

That many?

I'll never get anything done if I end up with the whole lot of them

 

[D'wards]

They showed about 3 episodes in a row last night but I videod them but that means I had to watch them without sub-titles

I have to watch them with subtitles too - helps doesn't it.

Just recommended it to a french friend who has perfect English, but struggles with american accents on tv a bit - insisted she got the dvds for subtitle purposes rather than torrent

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

I have to watch them with subtitles too - helps doesn't it.

Especially when you're half deaf to male voices

 

[DotCommunist]

I have to watch them with subtitles too - helps doesn't it.

Just recommended it to a french friend who has perfect English, but struggles with american accents on tv a bit - insisted she got the dvds for subtitle purposes rather than torrent

It's suprised me a lot, how people struggle with baltimore variant ebonics.

Like no-one listened to g-rap when growing up

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

Like no-one listened to g-rap when growing up

I didn't. I think it's mostly crap

 

[D'wards]

To be honest its as much the police speak as the low rise yo's.

I've always listened to hip hop and that, but just find its easier to absorb what they say quicker.

Me and me pal have our own name for it - Low Rise Fancy Spit

 

[DotCommunist]

To be honest its as much the police speak as the low rise yo's.

I've always listened to hip hop and that, but just find its easier to absorb what they say quicker.

Me and me pal have our own name for it - Low Rise Fancy Spit

ah the non-gendered baltimorese pronoun

Cutting gender from pronouns naturally where overt attempts to do so failed.


TBF I had little to no issue with the lingo, but then I am good at english. It's the only thing, mind.

 

[London_Calling]

I always enjoyed the parallel redemption arcs of Carver and Cutty.

It could be cliched, sentimental stuff but certainly people like Cutty would, at some level, reach out to popular film for a direction, and bosses like Colvin do turn around people like Carver. I suppose that's what The Wire is all about, no cheap plot fixes, and all the pieces matter.

 

[D'wards]

I always enjoyed the parallel redemption arcs of Carver and Cutty.

No spolier here i hope

 

[London_Calling]

If you've kept up with the BBC2 showing how could stuff in S3 be a spoiler?

You've presumably noticed the two characters complimentary approach to working with kids given we were hammered over the head with it during Hamsterdam.

 

[D'wards]

If you've kept up with the BBC2 showing how could stuff in S3 be a spoiler?

Yeah, but Carver has not done anything really that he needs redeeming from, so i assumed you may be talking about summat in the future

 

[madamv]

Just dropped in to say I am still totally into The Wire... I love Omar and agree with ya'll saying how cold Marlo is. He is a complete fucker and I cant wait til he gets got.

I think McNulty has always wanted to be a homely guy, but I dont know if I totally take his turn around. He wanted it so badly with his wife and couldnt do it for her, how comes he has managed for Beattie? But its nice to see...

Last night I was shouting for Lester to think about the empty houses, but as we were shown a decomp last night, I reckon they'll be all over that soon.

Anyone else notice that Carcetti doesnt have moving facial features? His acting disappoints me a little...

 

[London_Calling]

Yeah, but Carver has not done anything really that he needs redeeming from, so i assumed you may be talking about summat in the future

I haven't got the time to get into it but start at S1 when he got promoted to Sergeant for grassing up his Detail, and contrast his contribution when working with Herc to what he's doing at the end of S3.

 

[madamv]

Yeah, I always felt the two of them together were bad news... Never put much effort in and always missing stuff they were supposed to be scouting. Also, who took the money? Wasnt that them both or was it just Herc?

I think he has started to take the kids involved to heart after his stint in Hamsterdam...

 

[London_Calling]

My reading at the time was they both took the money.

 

[Gromit]

He wanted it so badly with his wife and couldnt do it for her, how comes he has managed for Beattie? But its nice to see...

How?

1. He had a taste of his own medicine from politics woman.
2. He saw how chasing the big case doesn't bring happiness. Just uses everyone up, grief, stress, politics, disapointment. That's leads to boozing and the boozing to womanising.
3. He saw another cop riding a radio car with a big ass grin on his face.

He's put two and two together and has chosen happiness.

 

[Monkeygrinder's Organ]

Yeah, I always felt the two of them together were bad news... Never put much effort in and always missing stuff they were supposed to be scouting. Also, who took the money? Wasnt that them both or was it just Herc?

IIRC Herc wanted to but Carver pointed out that, due to the wiretap, the others would find out how much money had gone and they'd get caught. Then they lost some of the money and got in trouble anyway, and found it in the spare wheel hole.

 

[London_Calling]

Mr Organ - that was an earlier incident. They found more cash under a mattress when there was that huge city-wide raid. They both stashed it inside their bullit proof vests.

 

[madamv]

How?

1. He had a taste of his own medicine from politics woman.
2. He saw how chasing the big case doesn't bring happiness. Just uses everyone up, grief, stress, politics, disapointment. That's leads to boozing and the boozing to womanising.
3. He saw another cop riding a radio car with a big ass grin on his face.

He's put two and two together and has chosen happiness.

Ahh course... I had forgotten about that last one too..

Yeh LC I am sure they did actually take some money...

On something completely different, Avon Barkesdale was in House the other night, as the hostage negotiator! And the perp was the Majister from True Blood and Danko from Heroes.....

 

[Madusa]

I saw some really shitty movie with Justin Timerlake this weekend and it had Avon Barksdale in it aswell.

One question though, why does Michael get his little brother Bug's dad killed? Anyone know? It was very very faintly alluded to that he was a paedo by the way Chris was acting but I actually thought that maybe Chris was projecting. Can anyone shed light on this?

 

[Orang Utan]

i reckon it was cos michael knew his 'step-dad' had abused his brother, or was planning to. chris had obviously been abused as a child, hence his brutal variation n the contract.