The Wire comes to BBC2 (Spoiler free, please)
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IT'S YOUR DECISION DANIEL
Happened on mine too - think it was something to do with the snooker under-running.
goldenecitrone
post tenebras lux
from that spoiler link:
talk about low expectations. ross kemp. lenny henry?
Idris Elba is in a different league to Ross and Lenny. Premiership compared to Vauxhall Conference.
Gromit
International Man of Misery
Happened to me too. My buffer is 3 mins and thats how I like it. I'm not going to up it just cause the Beeb won't keep to schedules as its more than enough for every other channel.
I'll catch the end on iPlayer tonight instead.
I'm loving the fact McNaughty is screwing over his old department with his faxes. Its no more than they deserve. The look on their faces as that woman was writing on the board. Class
Highlights how silly stats and percentages are when your job is supposed to be justice not making yourself look good.
fen_boy
Exits gracefully.
Same happened to me too.
That might be true, but Idris wouldnt be cast in a lead role in TV/ film here.
Ross Kemp has made a career out of playing meathead hardmen and entire series have been carved out around him.
Lenny Henry has enjoyed the kind of career longevity unknown to any other minority British actor/ comedian I can think of.
Its interesting that Idris mentioned Adrian Lester and Colin Salmon, both tremendous stage actors who fuck allover Kemp and Henry for talent. They've starred in 'colourblind' roles in rep; in the theatre they arent restricted to 'black' roles.
Adrian tried to tried to break out of Hustle and ended up in the execrable Bonekickers. It was ace to see Colin in the Ladies Detective Agency- he has immense physicality and presence. But outside of the stage neither man has had the kind of roles and opportunities their talent deserves in this country.
Elba, like them would be limited in the scope of TV roles offered to him- Hollywood is the only option.
So, Melinda, are you saying that for all the progress, there's still basically a glass ceiling for nonwhite actors in the UK?
What about that guy from Peep Show and Survivors.
What about that guy from Peep Show and Survivors.
Dont know about a glass ceilings necessarily - its just the availability of challenging roles.
Unless being black is integral to a role- I dont see so many asian/ black actors being cast in 'colorblind' mainstream roles- (e.g Adrian Lester as Mickey in Hustle).
The commissioning process probably has a lot to do with it.
The stage is different- Othello isnt the be all and end all of roles- it's not shocking to see Lester play Hamlet.
Id add Paterson Joseph to that roster of able black actors who excel on stage but generally get short changed on tv work over here. He was appparently really good in Survivors - I didnt see it.
Because of their stage experience, they'd kick arse in Hollywood with a decent agent.
Unless being black is integral to a role- I dont see so many asian/ black actors being cast in 'colorblind' mainstream roles- (e.g Adrian Lester as Mickey in Hustle).
The commissioning process probably has a lot to do with it.
The stage is different- Othello isnt the be all and end all of roles- it's not shocking to see Lester play Hamlet.
Id add Paterson Joseph to that roster of able black actors who excel on stage but generally get short changed on tv work over here. He was appparently really good in Survivors - I didnt see it.
Because of their stage experience, they'd kick arse in Hollywood with a decent agent.
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
not too dissimilar to that for women of any colour over 40. Some good roles, for sure, but not that many, and they go to a rather limited number of actresses.
Very much so, I'm afraid. One good example is to look at the careers of the two actresses who played the leads in 'Bend it like Beckham'.
I'm always surprised when people think that racism has disappeared in this country. It's like saying class and gender are no longer barriers to success.
Funny you should mention Parminder Nagra, I was talking about her just today in almost exactly this context.
She is one of the reasons I started watching ER again. They gave her an ace role- meaty, high profile storylines- fuck all to do with her ethnicity or nationality. Parminder carried the show in its final two years, so much was built around her.
She's currently doing press junkets with Ray Winstone for their new film Compulsion.
But she had to leave the UK to avoid all the arranged marriage scripts being sent her way after Bend It.
Like you say, even as successful as she is, (and so many British actors would chew their arm off to be her atm) - she cant compare to the sheer quality of roles and and cash Keira Knightly can command.
Where are Parminder's cosmetic and perfume deals?
I don't think racism had disappeared, just that things have come a long way from what they were.
Crispy
The following psytrance is baṉned: All
spot on
Bob_the_lost
Elsewhere
My tivo has died, i have no wire to watch. WHY DO YOU DO THIS TO ME GOD!? WHY?
*cries*
*cries*
Bob_the_lost
Elsewhere
Worse, i've missed monday, tuesday and wednesday. It's even possible tivo won't be working tonight so i'll have to chose between question time and the wire.
If there is a god, he's a cunt.
If there is a god, he's a cunt.
They're re showing the first three episodes either late Sat or Sun night on BBC2.
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
No Wire tonight, tis Apprentice:You've Been fired instead
Actually I did word my comment inaccurately, my bad.
I'd agree that things have improved since the 60s/70s but a long way, I'm not so sure.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
no he isn't
spanglechick
High Empress of Dressing Up
i always thought they were simililar - especially in his 'good will hunting' role.
Bob_the_lost
Elsewhere
Aha, different cause, same result.
Gingerman
Is a great bunch of lads.....
http://www.imdb.com/media/rm827558656/nm1032567
http://www.imdb.com/media/rm647596800/nm0000255
Hmm think its the hairstyle Schreiber is sporting on The Wire which reminded me of Affleck
Blood hell at that photo- he's unrecognisable.
And yeah, he reminded me of Ben Affleck in Good Will Hunting too Spangles.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
nothing like him!
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