The Sound Of Plastic Trumpets!!!! (vuvuzelas)

[CyberRose]

I really dislike how people's loathing of these "things"
is being equated with racism. I first heard the fuckers
over here in Australia, being used by my own (white)
step-sons two years ago and i fucking hated the noise
of them then and ever since. It has fuck all to do with
racism or "cultural imperialism". They are hardly a traditional
South African instrument, having been invented some 10 years
ago.

Ah but you say they were only invented 10 years ago but the vuvuzela has had a history applied to it retrospectively by people who support their use (eg they originated from fishing horns or some other type of horn that was used in South Africa at one point in history)

 

[discokermit]

Oh come now, don't be shy!

i don't really care, what's your point? look at any of the threads mentioning them and see if i posted (i didn't, because i don't care.).

 

[CyberRose]

But it's not

Yea to middle class liberal types!

Look, I don't like the vuvuzela because it means every fan that isn't from South Africa can't support their team. We're both football fans, go to matches, we know how important that is not only to the fans themselves but the lift it gives to the teams. I've been to matches where my shit team has overcome the odds because of the support the fans gave them. The vuvuzela completely eliminates that support and I just don't think that's fair for the fans that paid and arm and a leg to get over their to support their teams...

 

[stupid dogbot]

They generally don't bother me, but the more I read the whinging, the more I like them.

 

[butchersapron]

Yea to middle class liberal types!

Look, I don't like the vuvuzela because it means every fan that isn't from South Africa can't support their team. We're both football fans, go to matches, we know how important that is not only to the fans themselves but the lift it gives to the teams. I've been to matches where my shit team has overcome the odds because of the support the fans gave them. The vuvuzela completely eliminates that support and I just don't think that's fair for the fans that paid and arm and a leg to get over their to support their teams...

It means no such thing. How OTT can you get? Talk about imposing your selfish preferences disguised as concern for others

 

[discokermit]

I just don't think that's fair for the fans that paid and arm and a leg to get over their to support their teams...

oh boo fucking hoo.

you're a liar anyway, you just don't like the noise.

 

[CyberRose]

It means no such thing. How OTT can you get? Talk about imposing your selfish preferences disguised as concern for others

oh boo fucking hoo.

you're a liar anyway, you just don't like the noise.

Looks like I won the argument then

 

[killer b]

are you for real cyberose? turning it into a class issue makes a mockery of actual class politics. and makes you look like a prick.

 

[CyberRose]

are you for real cyberose? turning it into a class issue makes a mockery of actual class politics. and makes you look like a prick.

"Look"?! I am a prick!

But that's besides the point, I can't understand why anyone thinks that these things killing the atmospheres is a good thing unless they're the type of person that will blindly admire anything any other culture does differently (usually middle class types)

Anyway, class doesn't have to have anything to do with politics, certainly not in this case

 

[Kanda]

Annoyance at the vuvuzela is becoming more annoying than the annoyance of the vuvazela

Cultural killjoys

 

[London_Calling]

I have to agree, I don't really care that I can't hear 'In-gur-lan, In-gur-lan, In-gur-lan' or the first four lines of the national anthem repeated every 5 minutes for an hour and a half. In fact, if they blow a little harder it might drown out that brass band nonsense from oooop north.

If it's what they do over there, fine by me.

 

[mrkikiet]

If it's what they do over there, fine by me.

but in the couple of games i went to over there, in the SAPL, this wasn't what they did, at least not all match. They blew them occasionally, but there was singing and chanting, and then there were the vuvuzelas. now it seems that all there is, at least for tv supporters is the vuvuzela, which is rubbish.

 

[Orang Utan]

SUMC

 

[CyberRose]

but in the couple of games i went to over there, in the SAPL, this wasn't what they did, at least not all match. They blew them occasionally, but there was singing and chanting, and then there were the vuvuzelas. now it seems that all there is, at least for tv supporters is the vuvuzela, which is rubbish.

See! They're even stopping the South Africans themselves from supporting their teams properly!

 

[discokermit]

sumc

 

[stupid dogbot]

http://sumountaineers.org/

 

[discokermit]

http://sumountaineers.org/

shut up moaning cunts.

 

[MrSki]

You would never be allowed into a ground in the UK with a three foot hard plastic stick regardless of the sound that can be achieved.

Shame that South Korea are not playing the People's Republic & then we might have seen them being used in a different manner & would be banned from the ground.

It is a world cup which South Africa are hosting & maybe just maybe they should be considering the position of holding the event & consider the guest countries.

Do you consider what music you play depending on who is a guest in your home?

I was around a friend's house who I managed to convince to put on one match but in the end it had to be on mute.

Mind you once we are out of the group stages, I doubt that there will be many locals attending the games and the noise will reduce.

I am allergic to bees & it does me bleeding head in.

If I was at a match & someone was blowing one off (hehe) in my ear I would find it hard not to twat him.

Bring back the rattle that's what I say.

 

[teecee]

Mind you once we are out of the group stages, I doubt that there will be many locals attending the games and the noise will reduce.

aah bless your desperate optimism

 

[MrSki]

aah bless your desperate optimism

I am English but don't care too much about the England team or their chances.

I am glad that I have not had to hear the Great Escape.

I couldn't care how England do but there won't be many £15 tickets in the knock out stages.

 

[teecee]

I am English but don't care too much about the England team or their chances.

I am glad that I have not had to hear the Great Escape.

I couldn't care how England do but there won't be many £15 tickets in the knock out stages.

I think you misunderstand me (.. or I you ..) but the sound shall continue unabated as international fans have adopted the vuvuzela with alarming enthusiasm and the make up of the crowd will have no bearing on the trumpeting hordes, the vuvezela does not discriminate

 

[MrSki]

I think you misunderstand me (.. or I you ..) but the sound shall continue unabated as international fans have adopted the vuvuzela with alarming enthusiasm and the make up of the crowd will have no bearing on the trumpeting hordes, the vuvezela does not discriminate

I think you are right & it will more memorable than the poor footie fest we have had so far.

 

[teecee]

I think you are right & it will more memorable than the poor footie fest we have had so far.

Indeed, say what you like about the vuvuzelas but at least they are creating conversation where the football itself has failed

 

[stupid dogbot]

shut up moaning cunts.

Aha!

 

[Teaboy]

They certainly create a different atmosphere. Nah, they are shit and I turn the sound down, still shouldnt be banned though. If you pay your money and want to blow a horn it's up to you, I once brought a season ticket to Oxford just so I could call Steve Foster a cunt every fortnight.

 

[discokermit]

I once brought a season ticket to Oxford just so I could call Steve Foster a cunt every fortnight.

i had a season ticket at wolves just so i could sing cunty songs at strangers from other towns every fortnight.

 

[MysteryGuest]

 

[magneze]

 

[ska invita]

I have to agree, I don't really care that I can't hear 'In-gur-lan, In-gur-lan, In-gur-lan' or the first four lines of the national anthem repeated every 5 minutes for an hour and a half. In fact, if they blow a little harder it might drown out that brass band nonsense from oooop north.

ive heard a lot of people berating the brass bands in chats about vuvuzes - i love the brass bands - even if all they know is the theme from great escape. guess im just a middle class apologist for cultural difference.

i do wish there would be no national anthems though, and that the world would live as one

 

[Kaka Tim]

ive heard a lot of people berating the brass bands in chats about vuvuzes - i love the brass bands - even if all they know is the theme from great escape. guess im just a middle class apologist for cultural difference.

i do wish there would be no national anthems though, and that the world would live as one

vuvelelas through the national anthems i don't have a problem with.