The sound of 140 / Bass / Neo-proto-jungle-speed garage!

[ska invita]

I think this needs its own thread...theres been bits of chat here and there in 2013, but it would be nice to collate stuff on this nu sound in one place.

Haven't heard a catchy name for it hence neo-proto-jungle-speed garage [NPJSG]! I say speed garage as quiet a few tunes have the UKG swing + breakbeat + hoover bass elements

To kick off heres some chat from the mixes thread, and a great mix which captures whats going on so far:

quote="porno thieving gypsy" An excellent proto jungle mix - think Special Request & Tessela type tunage. Much better than I'm making it sound! /quote
https://soundcloud.com/smutlee/ruff-n-ready-2013

(Nice to see some OJ names on there, Doc Scott, Wax Doctor, DJ Die, and fair play to Mark Pritchard who never got tied down in one style.)

Surely it's retro jungle, not proto jungle.
Stuff like bug in the bassbin and we are e were proto jungle tunes.

Good point. Perhaps its future jungle? Who knows. Its bloody good though

This is how he describes it "This is a mix of current tunes that reminded me of the old days of jungle, wether its the baselines, the drum breaks, the synths or just the vibe, without me going into drum & bass tempo."

If what I heard at Exit Record's night last week is owt to go by, expect a LOT more of this kinda sound in 2014

what bpms were playing at exit? were there DnB Djs turning back to 145bpm or whatever most of the nu-proto-jungle tracks are?

Yeah, tempo was up and down like a yoyo! Was quite refreshing to have that kinda variety at a DnB night

Lots of rave style synth stabs and amens too.

thats exciting - the scene has been shackled to 176bpm for years, and so far the producers who ive heard who have gone in on the 140+bpm neo-proto-jungle come from that post-dubstep bass music side of things - would be great if the hardcore veterans came back and showed them how its done Also DnB has become a ghetto, pretty much outside the rest of the bass music spectrum, divided off by BPM.Maybe this will bring them back in a bit.

A lot of the minimal stuff hasnt excited me, likewise modern jump-up dnb, both due to a lack of breakbeats and boredom of two-step. Pulling out the Think and Amen breaks yet again could quickly get a bit tired too... time to go breakbeat hunting i think!

 

[killer b]

cheers ska, checking it out now.

 

[ska invita]

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[danski]

Stabs and breakbeats. What's not to like?

 

[Orang Utan]

Bungle?

 

[stethoscope]

Enjoying this mix ska (and porno)

Been really loving this sound since hearing both Brackles and Dust & Blackdown on Rinse playing tunes by the likes of Etch, Special Request and Tessela.

In the summer hearing some of those gave me the same vibes again as when hardcore, jungle, and garage were in their element, but still keeping things upfront and fresh in a bass/funky/dubstep production (as opposed to just a modern remake/'retro' sounding tune). IYSWIM?!

I've lost the plot with 170-180bpm d'n'b for quite a few years now. Whilst its good that sounds/genres don't standstill and evolve, at the same time I struggle to recognise a lot of d'n'b I hear in terms of its roots. This sort of stuff for me is the more natural development/upfront take on hardcore/jungle/garage heritage.

 

[DrRingDing]

Good stuff apart from the garagey "let's shuffle around our handbags while supping Bicardi Breezers" meh.

The rest I enjoyed, lots.

 

[stethoscope]

Summer 1993... hearing 31 Seconds for the first time on a glorious sunny day, walking through Hackney Downs, locked into Kool 94.5 FM on my personal stereo.

Summer 2013... hearing Hackney Parrot for the first time on a beautiful sunny day, walking on the common land near where I live atm in Yorkshire, locked into Rinse net streaming on my mobile phone.

Dunno why but just wanted to share that anecdote really, there's something poetic about it all!

@ska invita - found this earlier which I'm enjoying, and didn't realise that Special Request (aka Paul Woolford) had an album out in October of this kinda influenced stuff - going to check it out in the New Year.

 

[MellySingsDoom]

Checked this out earlier this afternoon - a v enjoyable mix. I'm well out of the loop on this kind of thing these days, so it's was nice to have the chance to catch up on it. Thanks for posting ska, nice one.

 

[porno thieving gypsy]

didn't realise that Special Request (aka Paul Woolford) had an album out in October of this kinda influenced stuff - going to check it out in the New Year.

Its great!

 

[ska invita]

Just checking out the special request album - this one hit the spot on the drum workout tip

 

[Orang Utan]

Not massively impressed. I would prefer a garage revival to a jungle one tbh

 

[ska invita]

Not massively impressed. I would prefer a garage revival to a jungle one tbh

its early days...also its not fair to compare to original jungle, this its own thing
dont think UKG ever went away...recommend http://www.freekfmlive.com/ for ukg and shuffling house

 

[Notorious J.I.M]

There's been a bit of a speed garage revival for a little while now. For example...

 

[ska invita]

Trying to think of a name for this genre....best ive got so far: junglishism

 

[fractionMan]

Someone told me the name of this stuff yesterday. I forget what though

I think they did anyway, sounds like what they were describing at ~90bpm or so?

 

[ska invita]

i think this is more around the 140 and up mark fm

 

[Orang Utan]

Trying to think of a name for this genre....best ive got so far: junglishism

I prefer bungle.

Btw rinse played garage all day on Boxing Day, so check their podcasts if you're a fan. Listening the swinging sounds of Mike Ruffcut Lloyd right now...

 

[porno thieving gypsy]

Like this

 

[ska invita]

The_Reverend_M, was that Exit night at The Nest? If so, whats it like in there?

 

[Fez909]

It'll probably end being called nu-skool hardcore

 

[porno thieving gypsy]

The_Reverend_M, was that Exit night at The Nest? If so, whats it like in there?

I've been to The Nest - nice sound system, expensive drinks and small too medium sized.

 

[ska invita]

I've been to The Nest - nice sound system, expensive drinks and small too medium sized.

sounds good to me - i like a sweat box if the sound is good. bah to the drinks though

 

[The_Reverend_M]

I've been to The Nest - nice sound system, expensive drinks and small too medium sized.

This plus some tasty lazers

 

[The_Reverend_M]

I've heard it called 'Future-Jungle'... we'll see what sticks though ay!

 

[sim667]

Ill have a listen to this when I get a chance, although from the description to me it sounds like the bassline/future jungle/speed garage/wonky stuff I like.

 

[ska invita]

that mix is a bit of a ...mix... some of the tunes featured are just related and not particularly jungley

Found this: http://futurejungle.blogspot.co.uk/

 

[The_Reverend_M]

This Jungle-Juke (and beyond) mix feels like it fits on this thread...

“Paris-based Moresounds music is that rare thing: a real synthesis of dub and dance music aesthetics, pulling from the enduring, mutating DNA strands of each to create something that’s beyond a mere mixture of styles.”

Listen and download mix here: http://electronicexplorations.org/?show=moresounds

ELECTRONIC EXPLORATIONS - 298 - Moresounds

01 - Eric Vann ‎– Space Face [Coloursound Library]
02 - Moresounds - Flocon [Astrophonica]
03 - Moresounds - Flocon (House Of Black Lanterns Remix) [Astrophonica]
04 - Boxcutter - Gn0515 [Cosmic Bridge]
05 - Om Unit - Deep Sea Pyramid [Civil Music]
06 - Ital Tek - Utlra [Planet Mu]
07 - Paper Tiger - Treasure town (Lewis James remix) [Forthcoming Wah Wah 45's]
08 - SertOne - Going Hard [unreleased]
09 - Moresounds - ????????????
10 - Moresounds - ????????????
11 - Sherwood & Pinch - Music Killer (Machinedrum Remix) [On-U Sound]
12 - DJ Earl - Without Love (Original Mix) [Booty Call Records]
13 - Mark Pritchard - Make A Livin [WARP]
14 - Kallisti – Millennial [No Relation]
15 - Dawn Day Night - Mister Meaner [Astrophonica]
16 - M-Beat ‎– Style [RENK]
17 - Touchy Subject - Rip It Up Ft. Simon Mandela [Free]
18 - Dj Rashad - I'm Too Hi feat Earl [Hyperdub]
19 - Traxman - Manic [Lit City Trax]
20 - Tom & Jerry - All Of My ... [Tom & Jerry]
21 - Kid Lib - Original Roughneck [Green Bay Wax]
22 - Kid Lib - The Garden Of Boodah (Tim Reaper Remix) [Green Bay Dub]
23 - ????????? - ??????????
24 - Jon Convex - TX (dBridge Remix) [Civil Music]
25 - Stray ft Fracture - Bounce That [EXIT]
26 - Shy FX vs Sam Binga - Sambaata [Unreleased]
27 - Tom Encore - The Roach (Deft remix) [forthcoming Concrete Cut]
28 - Homemade Weapons & Gremlinz feat Collinjah - After Dark (J:Kenzo Remix) [Samurai Music]
29 - Dom & Roland - Unofficial Jah [Metalheadz]
30 - SwamiMIllion - Droids [Alter Id]
31 - Machinedrum – Don't 1 2 Lose U (Moresounds Remix) [Ninja Tune]
32 - Kid Drama - Grind ft Om Unit [Exit Records]
33 - H-sik - North (the Secret Code) [Shtrak Dub]
34 - ????????? - ??????
35 - Manix - Rise Up Over [Reinforced]
36 - Keith Leblanc – Old Beat Master Mix [World Records]
37 - Angst - Exhurs [Gomma]

 

[porno thieving gypsy]

Here's a track for here (I think)
http://groundmassmusic.bandcamp.com/album/bizzniz-n-ting-tryer

 

[ska invita]

This might have been better on the proto future jungle thread? Anyway..

Spoiler: Shed - Fluid 67

yes it would ! nice tune