The Shard Tower in London
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teuchter
je suis teuchter
You betcha.
The core has started rising again in the last few days. We're at level 25 as of today
I was looking at the core the other day and was wondering what was going on up the side. It looks like there is some sort of opening through the concrete at each level, but after a certain height there aren't any (although there is some sort of marking in the concrete). Are the openings bashed out through the concrete after it's been cast, or something, I wonder?
TitanSound
Mr Beardy Drummer
They are for the lift doors on each floor. I am guessing there are none on certain sides at certain levels because of the eventual floor design?
Crispy
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They exist at every level and they're temporary formwork for openings in the concrete (the older ones have been exposed to the elements for longer so they're more obvious). No way to safely remove that formwork until the steel floors catch up, so there it remains.
They're not actual lift doors btw. but access to the central core corridors and lobbies. the lifts all face inwards
They're not actual lift doors btw. but access to the central core corridors and lobbies. the lifts all face inwards
Gromit
International Man of Misery
The Gherkin people must be pissed. They've been the iconic London building that gets shown on backdrops n things to represent / show that its London etc.
The Shard will take over from them once its completed.
I believe that the Gherkin has never managed to sell / let all its spaces. Me thinks that it never will now that it will become second fiddle to the shard.
The Shard will take over from them once its completed.
I believe that the Gherkin has never managed to sell / let all its spaces. Me thinks that it never will now that it will become second fiddle to the shard.
kyser_soze
Hawking's Angry Eyebrow
There's plenty of not 100% let office space around that area - Bishopsgate building, the new one at the other end of Lpool street (by the Light Bar).
The Gherkin probably has more to worry about from the Helter Skelter being built than the Shard.
The Gherkin probably has more to worry about from the Helter Skelter being built than the Shard.
Crispy
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Indeed. Shard's offices are low down the building and will be relatively low-rent. The middle section will be a "6-star" hotel and the top section will be multi-million penthouses.
Most buildings never reach 100% occupancy, because tennants want whole floors or portions of floors, the gaps between which can't be easily filled in with multiple small tennants (nor is this desirable, you end up 'fragmenting' the space, just like a hard drive)
Most buildings never reach 100% occupancy, because tennants want whole floors or portions of floors, the gaps between which can't be easily filled in with multiple small tennants (nor is this desirable, you end up 'fragmenting' the space, just like a hard drive)
kyser_soze
Hawking's Angry Eyebrow
I also suspect there's some kind of financial alchemy involved wrt having a certain amount of empty space. I mean look at The Ark; aside from Seagram being in there a few years it's remained unlet since it was built, yet it hasn't been demolished and replaced.
Crispy
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you sure about that?The hotel is going to have a car park just below it in the middle of the building, so there will therefore be a car lift lifting cars 30 floors or so.
cybertect
It's grim up north (London)
Ground floor plan from Southwark Planning Dept.
http://planningonline.southwarksites.com/planningonline2/DocsOnline/Documents/44436_1.pdf
no room there for a car lift.
http://planningonline.southwarksites.com/planningonline2/DocsOnline/Documents/44436_1.pdf
no room there for a car lift.
bromley
...isn't as good as Lewisham.
For aesthetic reasons!
Apparently the top 4 floors are too narrow to have anything in them and the mini-shard will have more overall floor space.
Same source as the car lift so don't take that too seriously!
I will double check with him.gamma globulins
plinky plonky
They're just building the core ATM aren't they?
gamma globulins
plinky plonky
Really? On reflection I haven't been back to london for nearly two months now so most of my observations are probably outdated. Do you have those flying cars yet?
Yes, but they don't come south of the river.
cybertect
It's grim up north (London)
For aesthetic reasons!
Apparently the top 4 floors are too narrow to have anything in them and the mini-shard will have more overall floor space.
Same source as the car lift so don't take that too seriously!
The top floors were originally scheduled to contain the 'Radiator', a passive 'heat rejection' device that would have helped disperse excess heat from the building (but without the energy costs associated with more traditional air-conditioning units).
IIRC, it was originally scheduled to take 15 storeys, then as the technology improved over the planning process, that was reduced to eight floors (short floors at 2.6m floor-to-floor height)
With other technological changes that have occurred over the ten years since the design began, the excess heat is now being recycled through the rest of the HVAC system. The Radiator became redundant as there are now better ways to do the same thing and it was dropped from the scheme last year.
I believe four of the floors will be taken up with some other plant, leaving four floors which they's still deciding what to do with.
London_Calling
Pleasant and unpatronising
Those floors are reserved for Bruce Willis to crush the plans of dastardly international terrah.
hipipol
Peckham Wry
The Technology is moving so fast that by the time they are fitting it out it should be possible to have Holo Projectors capable of producing 700ft John Revoltas in full Sat Night Fevva regalia to dance over central London
Lasers are SOOO 20th Century, dontcha think???
