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The Shard Tower in London

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There was a pretty horrible tower on the site before.

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Just for comparison like........
 
Good comparison :)
The biggest change will be the removal of that horrid brown roof and the brand new concourse for the station :)
 
Good comparison :)
The biggest change will be the removal of that horrid brown roof and the brand new concourse for the station :)
it's a shame they haven't taken this opportunity to thoroughly do up the whole of the station. It's bloody rank
 
And not to mention, extremely tedious to navigate. Especially when you have 1 minute to catch a train and it takes 5 minutes to get to the platform from the ticket hall which has a massive queue because most of the ticketmachines don't accept VISA and debit cards anymore for some bizzare reason.
 
it's a shame they haven't taken this opportunity to thoroughly do up the whole of the station. It's bloody rank

They are. The new station concourse will look lurvely. Altho TBF building it out of 5 giant sheet of corrugated iron would look at least as good as it does now.
 
Yeah - to clarify - the Shard project will re-do the existing concourse. The future NR project will create an entirely new concourse under the tracks.
But with DfT's bedget being cut all over the place, we'll have to wait and see if that one actually happens.
 
Yeah - to clarify - the Shard project will re-do the existing concourse. The future NR project will create an entirely new concourse under the tracks.
But with DfT's bedget being cut all over the place, we'll have to wait and see if that one actually happens.
yup, especially that the plan revealed in cybertect's link was first launched at least 4 years ago, without it having moved a single inch beyond the drawing board, AFAICT
 
The new viaduct for the thameslink line that they're building right now will help things out at LB, allowing more trains through - this is currently a major bottleneck.
 
Yep. AFAIK, the rebuilding of London Bridge station can't go ahead until the Thameslink 2000 upgrades are complete.
 
does anyone know when the Thameslink 2000 thing will be done?

It'll come in phases. The current phase aims to complete before the 2012 Olympics (and they're on target AFAIK). This includes the new viaduct at London Bridge, rebuilt Farringdon and Blackfriars stations and general platform lengthening on the main Bedford-Brighton line for 12 car trains.

After the olympics, London Bridge will be extensively remodelled, converting 3 terminating to through platforms, and building the new under-rail concourse. The Cambridge/Peterborough lines that currently terminate at Kings X will be connected to the Thameslink central tunnel. The junction south of LB (where the thameslink route joins the mainline) will be grade separated for greater throughput. They're aiming for 2015.
 
The London Bridge remodelling can't happen soon enough, it takes me just as long to get from Waterloo East to London Bridge as it does to get to Lewisham from London Bridge. :facepalm: The station is also a mess and you have to learn how to run and shout excuse me at the same time!
 
I've just noticed the big ugly building in front of the bus garage has pretty much gone!

There be sky! For now....
 
Hopefully I'll get a stat right, here goes...

There's going to be more overall floor space in the Mini-shard than the real one.
 
Nope. 600,000sq.ft. in the "gem" and 12,000,000sq.ft in the shard. There's more office space in the gem, by a small amount, but the shard has the hotel, apartments and viewing galleries as well.
 
does anyone know when the Thameslink 2000 thing will be done?

Have they demolished Borough Market yet?

A lot of people weren't happy, were they?

Despite being 2010, they are still calling it 'Thameslink 2000" even ten years later and now it's First Capital Connect anyway.
 
Borough Market was never going to be demolished. A new bridge is going over it, and there are some new columns to support it, that's all.
 
So my mate is doing nights on the crane this week, putting in steels. He tells me it takes him about 25 minutes to free climb up to the cab, and when he's up there he can see way out over London on all sides. He can see the curvature of the earth, and the lightening in the clouds and so forth. And planes are so much lower for him that he feels them looming when they go overhead.

He has posted some pics on his facebook page and it looks like they're taken from a helicopter. (He's reluctant to have them posted here for reasons outlined by others).

So my offer to get info and so forth has degenerated into a chance for me to show off instead :D

But yeah, any questions you want to ask him, Urban?
PM me so I don't have to keep trawling through this thread :)
 
He has posted some pics on his facebook page and it looks like they're taken from a helicopter. (He's reluctant to have them posted here for reasons outlined by others).
Genuine question: why does he feel ok posting them on Facebook but not here? :confused:

Sounds damn cool though; just how high up is he? Any idea just how far he can see? (Would imagine today would be good for sights, looks pretty clear, from down here anyway ;))
 
I think cos this is public and facebook is more private? And he can simply take them down in a moment? Not entirely sure tbh.

Oh another cool thing: his mobile phone signal is shifty because he's too high up.

I asked how high he was, he said "About 10,000 feet" and when I spluttered he said "Maybe not quite that, but thereabouts". So almost two miles. Which is clearly bollocks :D So I assume he's either not sure, or keen to exaggerate.
 
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