The Islamic state

[coley]

ISIS’ Grip on Libyan City Gives It a Fallback Option

This bit, sorry if it's been highlighted before (my bold)

But the messages began to change as the state-building project came under increased military pressure in Syria. Increasingly, Islamic State leaders began to focus more of their attention on the battle abroad. When the United States started airstrikes against the group last fall, its official spokesman, known as Abu Mohammed al-Adnani, called for Muslims in the West to stay where they were and murder those around them.

“If you can kill a disbelieving American or European — especially the spiteful and filthy French — or an Australian, or a Canadian,” Mr. Adnani urged in an audio message, “then rely upon Allah and kill him in any manner or way however it may be.”

 

[teqniq]

ISIS Promise of Statehood Falling Far Short, Ex-Residents Say

 

[teqniq]

michaelh992: Very significant: #ISIS is advancing south of the Turkish border and is closing in on strategic city of Azaz #Syria Michael Horowitz on Twitter

michaelh992: The loss of Azaz (which has been #ISIS's target for months now) would cut the opposition supply line to Aleppo #Syria

 

[butchersapron]

This is where the russians have bombed the FSA over recent days. This area will probably turn into YPG/SDF vs ISIS very soon.

 

[elbows]

Can anyone read the Arabic? I've tried "duck", "quack" and "idiot"... not, according to google, any of those...

I was under the impression that they picked arabic words that had a shape similar to the word duck written in english.

 

[agricola]

Can anyone read the Arabic? I've tried "duck", "quack" and "idiot"... not, according to google, any of those...

It doesn't say anything in Arabic - what it looks like they have done is reversed the letter ط (a strong T sound, as at the start of "Taliban") and added a ب (which is basically the same as our "b"), of course making it look in a western script like "dudu".

 

[sihhi]

Seeing as how they're rather obsessed with their own media image I don't think this is going to go down too well

The internet has decided to photoshop Isis fighters as rubber ducks

My Arabic is self-taught basic I could be wrong but I see only baa - alif - haa repeated over and over again which is said baah baah baah like the English blah blah blah

 

[agricola]

Though that said, the word for a duck is

بطة
they have just swapped the T around for some reason, (edit) and missed the bit at the end whose name I can never remember off.

 

[sihhi]

Though that said, the word for a duck is

بط

they have just swapped the T around for some reason.

Yes this right it's a reverse taa not alif + haa.

It says duck written eight times as duɔk or something

 

[elbows]

Any if you slightly squint at the small thumbnail version of the image in the post above where you quote it, the visual shape resemblance to the word duck in english is clearer.

 

[Idris2002]

Those crazy PhotoShop users!

 

[teqniq]

Iraqi politicians, militias warn Abadi against U.S. force deployment

 

[bimble]

Thomas Picketty says that ISIS is a consequence of economic inequality.
A new angle on the role of oil in the whole story anyway:
This might be the most controversial theory for what’s behind the rise of ISIS

 

[danny la rouge]

Thomas Picketty says that ISIS is a consequence of economic inequality.
A new angle on the role of oil in the whole story anyway:
This might be the most controversial theory for what’s behind the rise of ISIS

I haven't read the article yet, but I'm not sure that can be right, certainly not wholly so, because many of those "radicalised" outside of the Middle East are affluent and middle class. (Although the Middle East states themselves certainly have a very unequal wealth and status distribution).

I'll read it shortly, tied up just now.

 

[bimble]

I'm not sure that can be right, certainly not wholly so

If he's right it's certainly only a bit right, or right only about a bit of it.

 

[Artaxerxes]

I haven't read the article yet, but I'm not sure that can be right, certainly not wholly so, because many of those "radicalised" outside of the Middle East are affluent and middle class. (Although the Middle East states themselves certainly have a very unequal wealth and status distribution).

I'll read it shortly, tied up just now.

The middle class seem to be the most fervent ringleaders of revolution, the actual poor are to busy trying to live day to day. Its only when things go to shit after a successful revolution that the poor get a look in.

Lenin was the son of a teacher

Che seems to have been fairly middle class - studying at medical school, family alright.

Trotsky was apparrently from "well to do" farmers according to wiki

Osama was pretty well off

Even Marx seems well heeled.

 

[mk12]

You could find plenty of counter examples of working class revolutionary leaders. And I'm not sure placing Marx and Bin Laden in the same bracket is fair.

 

[danny la rouge]

Thomas Picketty says that ISIS is a consequence of economic inequality.
A new angle on the role of oil in the whole story anyway:
This might be the most controversial theory for what’s behind the rise of ISIS

I've looked at it now, and it certainly covers bases that I would naturally be predisposed to. But I have to check myself from falling into easy formulae. And I don't think he's answered the question; I think the question is still begged. Those states are very unequal, but they have always been, and certainly since the discovery of oil and its concentration in but a few hands. So why does ISIS/Daesh arise only now? There must be other ingredients.

Two things to consider: first, as I said before, the conditions he describes don't directly affect those who become "radicalised" outside of the region.

Is Violent Radicalisation Associated with Poverty, Migration, Poor Self-Reported Health and Common Mental Disorders?

Secondly, we are in danger of doing what Maryam Namazie calls "siding with the oppressor". Daesh are not victims: they're oppressors. Vile oppressors. She's worth reading on this, though she uses at least one reference I know will make some of you bristle. But she's fundamentally right.

Apostasy, Blasphemy And Free Expression In The Age Of ISIS : The Pensive Quill

So we need to be looking for other ingredients. Picketty hasn't answered the question.

 

[danny la rouge]

The middle class seem to be the most fervent ringleaders of revolution, the actual poor are to busy trying to live day to day. Its only when things go to shit after a successful revolution that the poor get a look in.

Lenin was the son of a teacher

Che seems to have been fairly middle class - studying at medical school, family alright.

Trotsky was apparrently from "well to do" farmers according to wiki

Osama was pretty well off

Even Marx seems well heeled.

I don't think ISIS/Daesh is "the revolution".

 

[bimble]

"Those at greater risk of sympathies for radicalisation had an income of more than £75,000" . That's a big number.
Very interesting study but done with a total sample of only 608 people, of whom just 2.4% said they had 'some sympathy', which means only 14 and a half people in total who said they felt that way?

 

[mauvais]

It might have escaped your attention amongst the flood of less significant events of late, but the ISIS campaign has given us new heights of political dynamite.



That's the King of Belgium there, wearing a dressing gown at a foreign spa as Brussels was in lockdown, a fittingly Belgian scandal that's come to be known as #peignoirgate

Never say that I don't bring you the news that matters.

 

[rekil]

Looks like they're drinking their own wee...

 

[Pickman's model]

Looks like they're drinking their own wee...

by no means. they're drinking each others.

 

[frogwoman]

"aqua vita"

 

[Idris2002]

Like an angel crying on your tongue.

 

[Louis MacNeice]

Like an angel crying on your tongue.

 

[seventh bullet]

The middle class seem to be the most fervent ringleaders of revolution, the actual poor are to busy trying to live day to day. Its only when things go to shit after a successful revolution that the poor get a look in.

Lenin was the son of a teacher

Che seems to have been fairly middle class - studying at medical school, family alright.

Trotsky was apparrently from "well to do" farmers according to wiki

Osama was pretty well off

Even Marx seems well heeled.

Some seem to be those most wanting to control things. And working class doesn't necessarily equal 'poor.' Sure, there is and conflict between different strata within the working class itself.

 

[frogwoman]

ICSR Insight - The Decline in Islamic State Media Output / ICSR

 

[butchersapron]

 

[butchersapron]

This could be you etc