The Doors: crap or not?
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pk
drink flounce rinse repeat
Ah come on, many of their pop songs were genius, and aside Jim Mozza's predeliction for shit poetry, the band were pretty good, ace guitarist and some keyboard work that was well ahead of it's time.
Did my Doors phase when I was into LSD and that, and it just puts a smile on my face whenever I hear it now.
Could never be fucked with all the Oedipus verse but the overall sound was good.
So I guess I still like them, in the same way I like The Hives.
They just know how to make you sing along when pissed.
Did my Doors phase when I was into LSD and that, and it just puts a smile on my face whenever I hear it now.
Could never be fucked with all the Oedipus verse but the overall sound was good.
So I guess I still like them, in the same way I like The Hives.
They just know how to make you sing along when pissed.
pk
drink flounce rinse repeat
I think Ray Manzarek's talents with a synth predate all that prog rock bollocks by several years and the essence of his style can still be heard in some of today's stuff, which is an achievement in itself.
Whether you like the Doors or not, you have to give him credit for opening the realms of possibility with synth sounds, and no doubt inspiring people like Robert Moog to push the designs of such machines further.
Whether you like the Doors or not, you have to give him credit for opening the realms of possibility with synth sounds, and no doubt inspiring people like Robert Moog to push the designs of such machines further.
dirtysanta said:
Erm.
Will since you asked twice.
Just a top 10 is too small. So. At the risk of getting shot down (which i'm sure you will). Stuff I've been listening to this year:
Radiohead, Girls Aloud, Godspeed You Black Emperor, 65 Days Of Static, Mogwai, Mclusky, Six By Seven, Nirvana, Sigur Ros, Flaming Lips, Querelle, Coldplay, Thee More Shallows, twentysixfeet. Various Productions, Aphex Twin (the token electronica person for people who don't really know much about electronica), Muse (yeah - so what?), Nick Drake, Wilco, Biffy Clyro, Eillott Smith, Aereogramme, Popular Workshop... You know. Stuff.
I kinda wanna listen to more electronica. Still trying to find my way thou. And I realise that I listen to too much stuff with guitars in - but guitars are fucking cool. And I like lots singles from different bands - but then think that they make shitty albums that I wouldnt buy.
Anyway thou...
Flame on.
Bonfirelight
Crocodile
God its so naff.
its everything thats was wrong with 60s music. Its everything punk changed. it's usually by about the 4th minute of the 'light my fire' organ solo i'm about ready to do myself in.
its everything thats was wrong with 60s music. Its everything punk changed. it's usually by about the 4th minute of the 'light my fire' organ solo i'm about ready to do myself in.
I think there are two type of people. Those that meet people who remind them of their youth - been there done that kinda' thing - or look back on their youth, bad tastes of their youth, fondly and those that seem to detest any reminder or recollection and spit venom or scoff a sarcastic line at any reference.pk said:
That said, The Doors were good at the time, I think nowadays part of the problem is that we've all overplayed their records and are sick of them. A bit like Pink Floyd.
Fond memories are always good though. The Doors got me through adolescence, god damnit!
dirtysanta
Original Casual
akirajoel said:
No flaming. Its just exactly what i expected. Quite predictable and awful at the same time. I mean coldplay, Biffo Clyro, Godpeeed. Dont s'pose you've got pic of yourself so i can complete the stereotypical image that i have of you?
fractionMan
Custom Title
Six by seven are unbearably shit* too.
*by shit I mean uttery mediocre and forgettable
*by shit I mean uttery mediocre and forgettable
DS - why are you ragging Akirajoel so much? god knows, i've done it myself but only in context.. .
Not a totally shit band. Several good tunes, but on the whole, an extremely over-rated band IMO (-largely 'cos he died young-ish, of course).
Jim Morrison: drunken ego-maniac; I bet he was a real pain a lot of the time.
The organ solo on 'Light My Fire' bores me rigid.
Whenever anybody over the age of 20 tells me they "...really love The Doors!!!", it immediately sets the alarm bells ringing.*
*Naturally, the same goes for Babyshambles too.
Jim Morrison: drunken ego-maniac; I bet he was a real pain a lot of the time.
The organ solo on 'Light My Fire' bores me rigid.
Whenever anybody over the age of 20 tells me they "...really love The Doors!!!", it immediately sets the alarm bells ringing.*
*Naturally, the same goes for Babyshambles too.
Dr. Furface
One small step for me
Anyone that can get the word 'bungalow' into a song and make it sound cool is alright by me!
nino_savatte
No pasaran!
The Doors were over-rated and Jim Morrison was a cock.
newbie
undisambiguated
Sunspots said:Whenever anybody over the age of 20 tells me they "...really love The Doors!!!", it immediately sets the alarm bells ringing.*
why? I was kindof upset when Morrison died, shortly after I saw them at the Isle of Wight. Does that make me a bad person?
I liked the Doors, a lot. Then, as you do, I listened to other stuff and they paled into history. And then, sometime in the 90s, they were suddenly everywhere, and all sorts of people were making very strange claims about them. Walking round Glastonbury hearing them come from stall after stall was very weird. Similar to the way Hendrix has become popular more recently- it's equally weird to hear Hey Joe coming out of a fashion shop.
I can't imagine anybody arguing about Radiohead in 40 years time.
gentlegreen
I hummus, therefore I am ...
I love that haunting slide guitar (?) chord at the start of "LA Woman" 
Echoed on Joni Mitchell's "Hissing of Summer Lawns" and Hookian Mindz's "Freshmess"
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Echoed on Joni Mitchell's "Hissing of Summer Lawns" and Hookian Mindz's "Freshmess"
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dirtysanta
Original Casual
Dubversion said:
calm down , it just a bit bantar, im hardly ragging him. Im sure he's big enough to stick up for himself.
I got a lot of time Akira as it happends hes a good fella, doesnt stop me from a little friendly piss take though. Im sure if Akira was though i was having a nasty dig he'd let me know.
fuxake
Bonfirelight
Crocodile
newbie said:
perhaps not, but i bet you would if thom yorke died tomorrow.
or preferably shortly after Ok Computer.
dirtysanta said:
*buries head in a pillow to muffle the tears*
I really don't like Coldplay that much you know. I just wanted to stick it to see if anyone would notice.
Plus - i think that they could be good at some possible point in the future if they sorted out their wimpy production and got a bit more abrasive.... Although even saying that - they would have to make songs which 'explode' at some point. All their songs tend to be just build...
There's ten times better than the Doors thou.
dirtysanta
Original Casual
akirajoel said:
*hugs Joel. pats his back*
There, there. its all alright now, everythings going to be alright
newbie
undisambiguated
Bonfirelight said:
the only real thing to discuss about Radiohead (or Coldplay, come to that) is how derivative they are. One of the key things about the Doors is that when they were making their music they were doing stuff which was sufficiently different from the other bands of the time, and nothing at all like what had gone before. Listening to them now, in a world of derivatives and tributes and much greater production values, does little justice to that. It's not fresh any more because so many others have built on what they did. The same is true of a lot of bands, of course.
gentlegreen
I hummus, therefore I am ...
newbie said:
We live in strange times ....
Nearly 40 years on from Woodstock (which I was too young to have known about), we have an out of control Neocon USA reaking havoc.
I find the parallels with Vietnam more than a bit scary....
The Doors' lyrics are a bit pre-feminist, but I have quite often found myself identifying with that "beat-poet" disaffected male thing - which I find sort of relavent again in a world where the norm is for men's contribution to family life is often little more than the contibution of a few strands of DNA.
[/old hippy]
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newbie
undisambiguated
akirajoel said:
really? Must be me then. Each time I've seen them they've bored me to tears because I've heard it all so, so many times before. But if you say it hasn't and in fact they're originals with something unique and outside the formula then you're probably right. I sure can't be bothered to argue.
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