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The dog thread is better than the cat thread, because it features dogs.

(still can't get over the thread title it is the finest, really made with the comma :D )

got a Christmas card poked into my letter box from an old bloke will call him Marshall who I met while walking Cosmo. Lovely bloke (must be in his 70s now), was talking to him one time and said to him I'd told someone that I let Cosmo on my bed at night and they were horrified. He said "I do, too, I don't know what they're talking about, I've woken up to a lot worse than that in my time'. :D He said on the card that he'd lost one of his dogs recently, he'd had two jack russels. Anyway, he didn't put his address on the card and I wanted to thank him but couldn't.

Today someone cycled past while I was out the front of the house. We'd talked before so he stopped and we had a bit of a chat. I told him I'd lost Cosmo recently and he said he knew someone who'd lost a dog recently. I nearly said to him 'it wasn't Marshall was it?' but I had no reason to think it would be it and it's a bit like meeting someone from New York and saying "ah do you know ..., they live in New York too :) "

So he carried on and said his friend's dogs were jack russels so I said "it wasn't Marshall was it?" and it was :D so I said to pass on my regards.

Ironic really because Cosmo was initially so aggressive to other dogs and the thing about dog ownership where you meet loads of people just never applied because I was always turning round and walking the other way when I met another dog owner.
 
I'm not a dog expert but I'm not scared of Rotties or Staffies, is there a need to be?
nope, lovely dogs.
no, totally, I'm all over them if the owner says yes, they're lovely dogs.

Depends totally on how they've been brought up. But a lot of rescues have had really hard upbringings and I'm not convinced I'd be a good enough owner (hate that word) to keep them calm if they met another dog or child.
yes,
not the "owner" but "their human" is how you need to describe the relationship
you are a team even if "you" don't know it
rescue dogs have issues from tbeir previous humans that need to be addressed is all it is (probably easier said then done in some cases)
 
I'm not a dog expert but I'm not scared of Rotties or Staffies, is there a need to be?

I'm probably far less of a dog expert, but i think the problem tends to be the hoomans not the dogs

never had a lot to do with rotties, although friend in devon used to live with an elderly and slightly infirm cat, who still insisted on going out on his rounds each day. after kitty died, he found out that part of the daily routine was an afternoon nap with a neighbour's rottie. sadly no photos were taken.

and another friend had a staffie cross - she (dog that is) was a bit nervous first time i met her (possibly an issue with men based on earlier bad experiences) but once i'd got to know her, she was one of the most snuggly dogs i've met
 
I'm probably far less of a dog expert, but i think the problem tends to be the hoomans not the dogs

never had a lot to do with rotties, although friend in devon used to live with an elderly and slightly infirm cat, who still insisted on going out on his rounds each day. after kitty died, he found out that part of the daily routine was an afternoon nap with a neighbour's rottie. sadly no photos were taken.

and another friend had a staffie cross - she (dog that is) was a bit nervous first time i met her (possibly an issue with men based on earlier bad experiences) but once i'd got to know her, she was one of the most snuggly dogs i've met
Indeed, is problem with humans. And no I'm not scared of rotties or staffies either, lovely dogs from what I've seen. Taking on a rottie or staffie from a refuge with unknown problems from previous humans is a bit daunting for me though.
 
I've been working really hard to reverse the dog/Cat segregation in the house. Progress has been slow but steady. Mabel can be left alone, the cats have learnt to stay still, move slowly, stay high etc... And that they win every close encounter!

Mabel is being super calm, super interested and I'm sure just wants to love them and squeeze them and hold them tight, but she's learning. She's choosing to leave them alone and return back downstairs to be with me, she hardly ever bothers them and gets in their faces. They seem to have found a common ground of laying around. The next stage is getting the cats to come back downstairs. Mabel doesn't have free access upstairs yet and maybe never will

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I'm not a dog expert but I'm not scared of Rotties or Staffies, is there a need to be?
I’ve never been but I’ve only ever met charming Rotties and Staffies, who were clearly well loved and well trained. The only dogs that make me initially wary are ones I’ve either been bitten by or witnessed biting or being aggressive. But that’s unfair too as I’ve also met lovely Jack Russells, Chihuahuas and German Shepherds. Actually that’s a lie about Chihuahuas, though I’m sure they exist. :D
Ah, hang on, I’ve just remembered a terrifying caged Rottweiler in the front garden of a house I used to deliver papers to as a lad. It would growl and snarl and bark and try to jump over the fence of the massive cage it was confined in. I was assured by the owner it couldn’t get out, but if it had been a bit cleverer, it could easily have jumped on its kennel and then out of the cage. Thankfully it was too thick to work this out, but it caused me such anxiety that eventually my boss, the newsagent, had to deliver it himself!
 
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I’ve never been but I’ve only ever met charming Rotties and Staffies, who were clearly well loved and well trained. The only dogs that make me initially wary are ones I’ve either been bitten by or witnessed biting or being aggressive. But that’s unfair too as I’ve also met lovely Jack Russells, Chihuahuas and German Shepherds. Actually that’s a lie about Chihuahuas, though I’m sure they exist.
Ah, hang on, I’ve just remembered a terrifying caged Rottweiler in the front garden of a house I used to deliver papers to as a lad. It would growl and snarl and bark and try to jump of the fence of the massive cage it was confined in. I was assured by the owner it couldn’t get out, but if it had been a bit cleverer, it could easily have jumped on its kennel and then out of the cage. Thankfully it was too thick to work this out, but it caused me such anxiety that eventually my boss, the newsagent, had to deliver it himself!
perhaps it was clever enough to do that, but had also worked out that once out it would be impossible for it to get back in unaided.
 
It's kind of a shit take on things and a terrible indictment of modern life though isn't it? I'd like to have a dog, I always wanted to have a dog, but I have to wait until the employment treadmill spits me out at age 65 after years of abuse until I can consider having enough time to share my life with a dog.
That’s how I feel - my unrealistic aspiration is to retire to a town with a beach, and live surrounded by dogs and cats (free heating too!)
 
I’ve never been but I’ve only ever met charming Rotties and Staffies, who were clearly well loved and well trained. The only dogs that make me initially wary are ones I’ve either been bitten by or witnessed biting or being aggressive. But that’s unfair too as I’ve also met lovely Jack Russells, Chihuahuas and German Shepherds. Actually that’s a lie about Chihuahuas, though I’m sure they exist.
Ah, hang on, I’ve just remembered a terrifying caged Rottweiler in the front garden of a house I used to deliver papers to as a lad. It would growl and snarl and bark and try to jump of the fence of the massive cage it was confined in. I was assured by the owner it couldn’t get out, but if it had been a bit cleverer, it could easily have jumped on its kennel and then out of the cage. Thankfully it was too thick to work this out, but it caused me such anxiety that eventually my boss, the newsagent, had to deliver it himself!
Yes there's a subset of rottie and staffie owners who deliberately rear the dangerous ones. I wouldn't trust myself being able to take on one from a rescue not knowing the history.
 
In recent years, I've only met "soft as clarts" rotties & staffies. etc

But in the past I've met, and had bad encounters with, various dogs that were aggressive in one way or another.
This included some Alsatians [not German Shepherds] and even a lab that had been trained that way.

I had a coat ruined by something dog-shaped, luckily it was loose enough that the teeth didn't reach me, and I had had some advice about dealing with aggressive dogs.

Have a laugh on me ...
Years ago, I was working on a train with a cash bag & ticket machine on long straps over my shoulder.
I spoke to a group of three at a table bay, who had a small dog with them and checked their tickets.
Turned to the people on the other side of the aisle and ditto.
Moved the bag & machine slightly and started to walk the couple of paces to the next set of seats.
... sound of Laughter ...
"Excuse me, can we have our dog back ?"
The animal was attached to the tails of my uniform jacket !
I backed up to the table again, so the dog's weight could be supported, and it let go ...
[To my surprise, when I took the jacket off, a few minutes later, no puncture damage just a slight wet patch from slobber.]
 
In recent years, I've only met "soft as clarts" rotties & staffies. etc

But in the past I've met, and had bad encounters with, various dogs that were aggressive in one way or another.
This included some Alsatians [not German Shepherds]

Have a laugh on me ...
Years ago, I was working on a train with a cash bag & ticket machine on long straps over my shoulder.
So they aren’t two names for the same breed? Forgive my ignorance, but my understanding of it is over 40 years old
 
Every Rottie and staffie I have ever met are soft as fuck when in an environment with their owners and friends.
A lot of them when out of that environment too.

However, trying to control 20 -50k of dog when they are not in an environment they like takes effort. And I agree that I would not take either breed from rescue, because I would be worried they'd come up against a trigger that it didn't matter how much they were connected to me, I just couldn't physically stop them.
 
Every Rottie and staffie I have ever met are soft as fuck when in an environment with their owners and friends.
A lot of them when out of that environment too.

Another angle (I'd forgotten about this yesterday) is that some other dogs seem to react with fear / aggression towards staffie type dogs (possibly picking up their owner's fear?) - the friend's staffy cross that i mentioned yesterday was not aggressive towards other dogs, but did get other dogs going for her now and then...
 
Cone of Shame (Christmas edition). Frida’s got an infection in her left paw: it was drained by the vet, the swelling went down and she’ll go for a check-up on Tuesday. Fingers crossed everything heals up quickly so she can get her face stuck into a bowl of Christmas dinner scraps…

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