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The dark side of Stamford hill. I have the benefit of being able to have a Hackney Library card. Lucky, lucky me. And I can catch one of the most dangerous buses in London - 253 - marvellous!
 
boohoo said:
The dark side of Stamford hill. I have the benefit of being able to have a Hackney Library card. Lucky, lucky me. And I can catch on of the most dangerous buses in London - 253 - marvellous!
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i get the 253 as well, and the 106, and the 393, and the 56, and 48, and 38...loads of buses :cool:
 
PacificOcean said:
Ha! That's another thing crap thing about Hackney - no tube lines. I have four different lines within walking distance of my house.
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I haven't really noticed the lack of tube whilst living in Hackney. The buses & the 2 overland lines are fine enough.
 
PacificOcean said:
Ha! That's another thing crap thing about Hackney - no tube lines. I have four different lines within walking distance of my house.
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We live by the Way of the Bus - it's main philosophy is that you'll will get there when you are meant to. It's a much calmer approach to travelling -you get to watch the world go by and you can jump off the bus if it is not going anywhere.
 
PacificOcean said:
Ha! That's another thing crap thing about Hackney - no tube lines. I have four different lines within walking distance of my house.
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i haven't lived near a tube for 12 years, it's not a great hardship, i can get a bus to bethnal green tube, finsbury park tube, manor house tube, trains to liverpool st, seven sisters, another train to highbury corner....so i can be on a tube fairly quickly if i needed to be
 
Glad I've found this thread (if it's not too late).

I suspect that wonderful Elizabethan house on Mare Street might be next - it was the Elizabeth Fry house for "fallen" women at one point in its history, as well as a local drinking club in recent years.

Just a lot easier to build a Noddy toytown rabbit hutch block of flats than convert a listed house, isn't it? And, of course, Hackney could really do with some more "executive" apartments for bachelor, 20-something in debt financial services salesman.

Going way back upthread, my wife had a studio in the block next to the one that burned down in Aldgate, and it was bloody dangerous. They were on the top floor and had to evacuate pretty sharpish. No wonder the fire brigade get pissed off with it - for them it's not architectural vandalism, it's actually putting their lives in danger.
 
the mystery fire is a skill honed in closed down mental hospitals in the south east in the 90s.

see just about every hospital in the old 'epsom cluster' and a couple in banstead.

if u cant develop it. burn it. then develop it.
 
To add insult to injury is the wide-eyed way the Hackney Gazette reports these things. Ok, they can't just say X is a fucking arsonist property developer, but it's all oh, there's been a fire, oh the building was empty, oh it had just been sold, oh it's next to the train station (very convenient transport links etc etc)...I mean! Engage your brain! Pilger it ain't.
 
Dan U said:
the mystery fire is a skill honed in closed down mental hospitals in the south east in the 90s.

see just about every hospital in the old 'epsom cluster' and a couple in banstead.

if u cant develop it. burn it. then develop it.
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Eh? I thought that the old mental hospitals WERE all being developed into the usual "luxury flats"??? At least, according to that guy who does the photo "tours" around them and posts the pics on here and other places.....

Giles..
 
HackneyE9 said:
Glad I've found this thread (if it's not too late).

I suspect that wonderful Elizabethan house on Mare Street might be next - it was the Elizabeth Fry house for "fallen" women at one point in its history, as well as a local drinking club in recent years.
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That's the one I mention in my first post. I think I wince everytime I'm just around the corner from these buildings because they might not be there or have become some burnt shell.
 
195 Mare Street

Elizabethan?!? - this sounds like folk history in the making as people vaguely remember the plaque to Elizabeth Fry...

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English Heritage Buildings at Risk Register 2006 said:
Name:New Lansdowne Club, 195 Mare Street, Hackney E8
Listed Building Grade:II*
Scheduled Monument:No
Conservation Area:No
Condition:poor
Occupancy:Occupied
Ownership Type:CompanySummary:Substantial detached house, 1715. In use as a working men's club but in need of extensive repairs. Listed building consent and planning permission has been granted for the repair and refurbishment of the main building for use as a Vietnamese Cultural Centre along with a residential development to the rear
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personally i think developers who suffer convenient arson attacks should be publicly immolated themselves.

what pisses me off more is that it would very simple for a law to be passed requiring property owners to undertake basic fire prevention on these at risk buildings making them responsible but it ain't going to happen. the rich look after their own.

oooh, overpriced new build rabbit hutch? for me? *gets mortgage*
 
The one I remember was the listed harbour warehouse in Bristol that conveniently burned down so they could build new harbourside partments. the bastards.

Luckily, all our clients at the moment are either public sector or utterly filthy rich who wouldn't ponce around with single buildings when they could be developing entire blocks of central london (which are a little tricky to burn down), or I'd have a crisis of conscience!
 
Fantastic interview with Ian Sinclair in this week's Hackney Gazette. At the end of a bog-standard Sinclair style tour of Abney Cemetary, he turns on the reporter and quizzes him about all the mystery arson attacks on Dalston Lane and the rampant property speculation around the East London Line extension.

Reporter is reduced to writing: "Mr Sinclair appears very well-informed about local matters."

Hmm. Yeah. And not from reading the Gazette, that's for sure!
 
The South Islands Place Library in SW9 is due to be made into housing. The sign claims it'll be affordable housing, but there's clearly some dodgyness going on cos if you look at the building from a couple of streets away at the back the green (copper?) roofing has clearly been ripped up. Is this to let water in & make sure the place becomes unstable & then gets knocked down?

The location of this building may mean it is of interest to the OP.
 
Onket said:
The South Islands Place Library in SW9 is due to be made into housing. The sign claims it'll be affordable housing, but there's clearly some dodgyness going on cos if you look at the building from a couple of streets away at the back the green (copper?) roofing has clearly been ripped up. Is this to let water in & make sure the place becomes unstable & then gets knocked down?
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:confused: There's no conspiracy - the planning permission granted to London & Quadrant in May was for:

Demolition of the former library building and erection of a new 4 storey building comprising 19 affordable flats (4 x 1-bed, 13 x 2-bed, 2 x 3-bed), with 19 secure cycle parking spaces and associated refuse storage and landscaping
 
Onket said:
Maybe the roof was damaged before May then?
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I think it is just the housing association's contractors starting demolition, isn't it :confused:

AFAIK ever since Lambeth moved the mobile library service out (to Herne Hill?) and put the property on the disposal list there hasn't been any suggestion that the present 1950s building was going to be kept?
 
Surely it's easier to take down a sound building than one which is potentially dangerous?

Anyway, never mind.
 
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