The Catford Bridge Tavern opens tonight!

[ddraig]

that would be shit if it happens!
no pubs and plenty of of retail around there

 

[Mr Blob]

I haven't been a while. Went to Catford bridge tavern when it first opened

 

[oryx]

Noooooo! We haven't even been there yet!

If the threat is real, as well as losing what is by all accounts a good pub, there are quite a few small food shops on that stretch between the Broadway and the stations which would suffer if the likes of a Tesco Metro got in.

 

[ska invita]

This morning we have met two councillors and had very encouraging advice. We have also already had incredible support from customers, twitter followers (@catfordtavern), Catford shopkeepers, local press, BC commenters and MP Heidi Alexander.

However, we won't be complacent, the fight is there to be fought and well worth fighting, whether for the future of Catford, the future of pubs or, selfishly, the interests of Antic Ltd. If you would like to help the first thing to do is to register your opposition to the planning application by emailing planning@lewisham.gov.uk, quoting DC/12/81142/X and giving your name and address. You can also sign our petition at the bar, or soon online. Lastly, you can write to various people such as Heidi Alexander. Details of how all of this can be done and the strongest points to make in opposition to the plans will be on our website (www.catfordbridgetavern.com) asap next week.

Thanks in advance for all support.

Catford Bridge Tavern's building is 92 years old and a pub has stood on the site for 140 years.

 

[Smangus]

posted on the lewisham site, tesco fuckers

 

[love detective]

funny that no one seemed to give a shit when a string of working class pubs closed recently in and around catford to make way for flats & tesco metros (the george, green man, plough & harrow, place house tavern etc..)

some people seem to have had a convenient damascene conversion to the benefits that local pubs provide for 'communities'

 

[ddraig]

most of them were dirty dodgy places iirc

 

[love detective]

what was dodgy about those places?

i specifically didn't mention closed down pubs like the rising sun and the copperfield in that list as they were dodgy/anti-social/class a drug ridden places

 

[ddraig]

well must say i think i've only been in 2 maybe 3 so i maybe being out of order
and prob 10 years ago too now thinking about it

prob posted before that i went into the plough and harrow as they had note in window about job and while i was talking to them a black man came in and got a well hostile reaction and turned down flat with some choice language so i left too

only other experience is seeing in and passing etc and being advised not to go certain ones

 

[temper_tantrum]

I'm not a fan of Antic. Got a proper big-pubco attitude.

 

[clicker]

funny that no one seemed to give a shit when a string of working class pubs closed recently in and around catford to make way for flats & tesco metros (the george, green man, plough & harrow, place house tavern etc..)

some people seem to have had a convenient damascene conversion to the benefits that local pubs provide for 'communities'

The George was a cockroach haven for the last two years of it's existence, the carpets oozed piss and the place was abysmal....The Place House Tavern my uncle and aunt managed many moons ago as relief managers, it looked in need of a lick of paint then and never got it until it too turned to dust....The Plough and Harrow / Goose is big and busy, in my book that doesnt equate friendly, have yet to be in there, and tbf I've only had the displeasure 6/7 times, but each time there was a fight either inside or just outside and once actually in the doorway, not much of a welcome mat.

I don't mind adding my support to the Catford bridge Tavern staying open, only been in a handful of times, but I know t's there and that's a good thing,handy if the train is cancelled and good service and apparently a cracking men now .

There is a petition but,signing the petition is great (there is also a paper version in the pub itself) but apparently it only counts as one objection so the most important thing is to email Lewisham Planning with your objection: planning@lewisham.gov.uk - quoting DC/12/81142/X, giving your name and address.

Sick and tired of Tesco gnawing on the remains of the locality.

 

[love detective]

The George was a cockroach haven for the last two years of it's existence, the carpets oozed piss and the place was abysmal....

Well it's now a Tesco Metro and done so without a peep from the types who are aghast at the thought of the CBT being turned into similar

The Place House Tavern my uncle and aunt managed many moons ago as relief managers, it looked in need of a lick of paint then and never got it until it too turned to dust....

So it deserved to close because in your opinion it needed a 'lick of paint'?

The Plough and Harrow / Goose is big and busy, in my book that doesnt equate friendly, have yet to be in there, and tbf I've only had the displeasure 6/7 times, but each time there was a fight either inside or just outside and once actually in the doorway, not much of a welcome mat.

Not sure why you mention the goose because 1) it's still open, and 2) I didn't mention it in the post which you replied to (the goose used to be called the black horse and harrow, which is a totally different pub to the one i mentioned which was the plough & harrow on the other side of catford broadway next door to the carpet shop)

I've been going to the Goose for over 6 years now and have never seen one fight in there, nor is there any atmosphere of intimidation or doginess (unless of course you are intimidated by working class people in and off themselves). I've seen plenty fights in the area around it however but that is little to do with the pub and more about the location in the catford 'frontline' with rival kids/gangs regularly coming to blows there. From what you write though you seem to suggest that you've never actually been inside the place but are qualified to discuss whether it should remain open or not purely by looking at it from the outside

None of the pubs I listed in my first post could be described as the least bit dodgy and deserving of being closed. As I said i specifically did not include pubs like the copperfield and the rising sun which are no loss now that their closed

Best pub in catford by a mile though is the catford ram

I don't mind adding my support to the Catford bridge Tavern staying open, only been in a handful of times, but I know t's there and that's a good thing,handy if the train is cancelled and good service and apparently a cracking men now .

There is a petition but,signing the petition is great (there is also a paper version in the pub itself) but apparently it only counts as one objection so the most important thing is to email Lewisham Planning with your objection: planning@lewisham.gov.uk - quoting DC/12/81142/X, giving your name and address.

Sick and tired of Tesco gnawing on the remains of the locality.

As i've said, there wasn't a peep from anyone like you when the George was turned into a Tesco Metro

 

[ska invita]

Well it's now a Tesco Metro and done so without a peep from the types who are aghast at the thought of the CBT being turned into similar

are you referring to posters on here? I dont live in catford, have never been in that pub, and only posted about it as it came up on a local forum and i know there was a thread about it on here. I never heard about the other pub closures. I stay somewhat clear of Catford after having a knife pulled on me outside the Goose (nothing particularly wrong with the Goose, could have happened anywhere. anywhere in catford that is.).

some people seem to have had a convenient damascene conversion to the benefits that local pubs provide for 'communities'

i currently live a few door down from a back street locals pub and its great - no problems, the occasional bad karoake on a weekend. That said i lived near to one in the 90s and it was shit - constant fights, police being called etc. a nightmare...some pubs are good for the community, some not.

 

[clicker]

Well it's now a Tesco Metro and done so without a peep from the types who are aghast at the thought of the CBT being turned into similar

So it deserved to close because in your opinion it needed a 'lick of paint'?

Not sure why you mention the goose because 1) it's still open, and 2) I didn't mention it in the post which you replied to (the goose used to be called the black horse and harrow, which is a totally different pub to the one i mentioned which was the plough & harrow on the other side of catford broadway next door to the carpet shop)

I've been going to the Goose for over 6 years now and have never seen one fight in there, nor is there any atmosphere of intimidation or doginess (unless of course you are intimidated by working class people in and off themselves). I've seen plenty fights in the area around it however but that is little to do with the pub and more about the location in the catford 'frontline' with rival kids/gangs regularly coming to blows there. From what you write though you seem to suggest that you've never actually been inside the place but are qualified to discuss whether it should remain open or not purely by looking at it from the outside

None of the pubs I listed in my first post could be described as the least bit dodgy and deserving of being closed. As I said i specifically did not include pubs like the copperfield and the rising sun which are no loss now that their closed

Best pub in catford by a mile though is the catford ram



As i've said, there wasn't a peep from anyone like you when the George was turned into a Tesco Metro

As I said, have been in the Goose 6/7 times....6/7 times too many...although it does have a lovely ceiling. The throng smoking in the doorway is just the warmest welcome.

The George was a complete dive for two years before it shut, were you actually in it during it's incarnation as a chinese pub....I remember it from its glory days as a beefeater , being taken in there as kids for the occasional treat and it was rammed. Then followed a few years of it as a decent boozer...then followed a couple of years when it was left to literally fall apart, the vermin inspectors were regular visitors and the cockroaches belonged to the darts team. Why on earth would anyone be up in arms about losing a dump....the Catford Bridge Tavern is worth keeping, so people are raising objections...pretty standard stuff really.

You're quite right about the plough and harrow though, got confused, yes remember that little pub next to dourofs carpets, never went in, no idea if it was worth fighting for.

The Catford Ram....huge space, ok for a drink when you want to speak but nothing special atmosphere wise or particularly homely....where as the catford bridge tavern is all standard lamps and bar billiards....not everyones cup of tea, but will be missed by those who like that brew.

 

[ska invita]

The Catford Bridge Tavern has been forced to close, but hopes to make a swift return (for the background, click here). Manager Richard explains:

Punch Taverns, who were leaseholders and with whom we had a tenancy at will, served us notice and took the freeholder's offer to end the lease. Punch have been good to us - they tried to assign the lease to us, tried to sub-let to us, both were blocked by freeholder. So we emptied and left the building today.

The freeholder has agreed a deal with a national retailer to take over the space, but the retailer was unaware of the Article 4 Direction put in place by Lewisham Council. Article 4 Direction essentially makes a supermarket impossible. So we're hopeful of either getting a sub-lease from the retailer, or a lease from freeholder. Either way, we're confident we have a good chance - we could re-open soon, all being wel

l!

 

[ddraig]

boody ell!

 

[Puddy_Tat]

major fire at Catford Bridge Tavern this evening - report here

 

[editor]

 

[Treacle Toes]

Where is that exactly, in Catford I mean?

 

[oryx]

Where is that exactly, in Catford I mean?

On the bridge between the two stations. indeed!

Luckily, I think the building is empty (awaiting refurb).

 

[Treacle Toes]

N'mind, I know...Doggett road leads out of Ladywell fields on one side...the CT is up at the top on the main road.

 

[Thaw]

It re-opened again on March 30th. Still a bit of work needed but I thought it was quite smart. A few Truman beers and they don't have dozens of craft beer taps which is a relief. With Little Nan's too there is just about enough for a Catford Pub crawl now.