The Batman (2022)
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Reno
The In Kraut
I'm intrigued by the reviews, despite this being the gazillionth itineration of a rather absurd character I have little interest in. It's been described as being closer to David Fincher's Seven or Zodiac rather than to a conventional superhero movie and I like Pattison a lot. Will probably wait till I can watch it at home though.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
Can’t wait for the next one - Mr Batman
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
I am seeing SOLD OUT in my local venues for the first time ever. Wtf is wrong with people
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
MAKE BATMAN FUN(NY) AGAIN
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
We want anti-shark spray. We want underpants over tights. We want dreadful pun one-liners. We want ineffectual uniformed henchmen. We want onscreen POW!s and KERRANG!s
Fuck all this shit with a hoarse fascist vigilante executing graffiti artists in a storm, we want mild peril in Technicolor Hollywood sunshine.
Is anyone in Hollywood brave enough to keep it light?
Fuck all this shit with a hoarse fascist vigilante executing graffiti artists in a storm, we want mild peril in Technicolor Hollywood sunshine.
Is anyone in Hollywood brave enough to keep it light?
Reno
The In Kraut
Last time they tried that, it didn't go down so well:
Lots of the MCU movies are colourful, lighthearted and comedic, Guardians of the Galaxy, Thor, Spider-Man and Ant-Man all fit the bill. On the DC side, Suicide Squad (the second one) was a blast and Aquaman is rather camp.
I'm fine with Batman being the glum one.
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Feel much the same. I'm not into the whole superhero genre in general (find it really dull) but I do wonder whether this might be worth catching. (I did quite like the first couple of Christopher Nolan ones). And Batman is at least vaguely more interesting than bloody Superman.
Spandex
A crazy bulbous punchbag of sound
Batman started out quite gritty. Like this from around 1940:
Bob Kane and Bill Finger's editor, Whitney Ellsworth, made them tone it down - no guns, no killing - as comic book violence was already causing controversy. It was the introduction of the Comic Book Code in 1954, during the moral panic about comics following the publication of Seduction of the Innocent, that led to Batman becoming lighthearted fun with weirdness like Bat Hound and Bat Baby. It was that lightheated Batman that carried over into the 60s TV series.
The 80s Batman - Dark Knight Returns, Year One - was a return to the original moody Batman and that's what most filmmakers have been trying to capture ever since. Usually with disappointing results. I don't think any of them have managed to get it quite right yet.
Bob Kane and Bill Finger's editor, Whitney Ellsworth, made them tone it down - no guns, no killing - as comic book violence was already causing controversy. It was the introduction of the Comic Book Code in 1954, during the moral panic about comics following the publication of Seduction of the Innocent, that led to Batman becoming lighthearted fun with weirdness like Bat Hound and Bat Baby. It was that lightheated Batman that carried over into the 60s TV series.
The 80s Batman - Dark Knight Returns, Year One - was a return to the original moody Batman and that's what most filmmakers have been trying to capture ever since. Usually with disappointing results. I don't think any of them have managed to get it quite right yet.
That's really interesting, Spandex. The Comic Book Code, who knew?Batman started out quite gritty. Like this from around 1940:
Bob Kane and Bill Finger's editor, Whitney Ellsworth, made them tone it down - no guns, no killing - as comic book violence was already causing controversy. It was the introduction of the Comic Book Code in 1954, during the moral panic about comics following the publication of Seduction of the Innocent, that led to Batman becoming lighthearted fun with weirdness like Bat Hound and Bat Baby. It was that lightheated Batman that carried over into the 60s TV series.
The 80s Batman - Dark Knight Returns, Year One - was a return to the original moody Batman and that's what most filmmakers have been trying to capture ever since. Usually with disappointing results. I don't think any of them have managed to get it quite right yet.
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Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
Aye, loved The Suicide Squad - it hits all the right spots for me in a superhero flick.
Quite enjoyed Guardians Of The Galaxy the second time I saw it. Antman fared better with me and I enjoyed the Deadpool movies more than I should.
Reno
The In Kraut
I found the Deadpool films a little too pleased with their own edginess, I thought The Suicide Squad did a irreverent take on the genre better. I've got The Peacemaker lined up, the spin-off tv series.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
Is that the John Cena character? The conceited one? I’d watch that
(a Weasel tv series needs to be made though)
Reno
The In Kraut
Yes and yes again !!! Weasel was the funniest superhero character ever.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
Weasel was my favourite character in the movie. I saw it at the cinema and it was so much fun laughing with an audience at its antics after a long lockdown
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
oh yes - the best violence in the film as well
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
Jeff Robinson
Marxist-Lentilist: Jackboots and Jackfruit
I decided to myself after Blackpanther that I was done with Superhero movies for good. But I do kinda want to see this. I enjoyed the Dark Knight and Joker and this looks like a similar vibe.
Still, fuck nearly 3 hours - it’s longer than TDK!
Still, fuck nearly 3 hours - it’s longer than TDK!
paul mckenna
Bellend
I liked the procedural element of it but it just runs out of steam at the end of the hunt when Riddler enters the conversation. Paul Dano is shite in the role and just screams his words, no real menace. From then on it becomes more action-y but this doesn't work as well compared to Nolan's set pieces.
They should have kept it as a singular procedural-first emo-character piece. Would have mirrored The Joker well that way but... dollars
They should have kept it as a singular procedural-first emo-character piece. Would have mirrored The Joker well that way but... dollars
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
couldn't even get a twitch for this tbh, another batman film. Hold me back. That said, I saw a few photos in an an article praising the film for going back to a proper baroque decayed gotham look so maybe I'll end up torrenting it just to look at that.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
Is he gruff like Bale/Lego/Abed Batman?
Reno
The In Kraut
Apparently he tried to do it differently was told to change it:
Robert Pattinson was told to change his ‘absolutely atrocious’ Batman voice
The star of Matt Reeves’ upcoming film says he spent two weeks experimenting with vocal delivery. It did not go well
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
Like he’s trying to buy alcohol without ID
Yuwipi Woman
Whack-A-Mole Queen
Saw it yesterday. Thought it was a bit slow. You could take 45 minutes off the run-time if you cut back a little on the brooding. Overall, I enjoyed it, but it reminded me of those movies that are mostly people walking around looking edgy to music.
cybershot
Well-Known Member
I liked that this was Batman being what Batman is supposed to be. A detective. It’s defiantly more of a thriller than a superhero film. Although I agree with Yuwipi Woman in that it could probably have been 45 minutes shorter. The ending really drags on and on.
Also just go see this in any screen. No part of it is filmed with IMAX cameras so you’re wasting your money. Also the fact the whole film is practically dark that any fancy screens or HDR bollocks is pointless. It would have been nicer if there was a bit more light allowed in. Even in what few day scenes there were but I get the whole shadows thing with Batman but this was very monotone colour palette wise.
Overall despite those nitpicks it’s probably a decent 7.5/10
Also just go see this in any screen. No part of it is filmed with IMAX cameras so you’re wasting your money. Also the fact the whole film is practically dark that any fancy screens or HDR bollocks is pointless. It would have been nicer if there was a bit more light allowed in. Even in what few day scenes there were but I get the whole shadows thing with Batman but this was very monotone colour palette wise.
Overall despite those nitpicks it’s probably a decent 7.5/10
