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beesonthewhatnow

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One week to go, plenty to talk about already, but one rather obvious starting point given the events of today...

Will he? Should he?

(Yes/yes IMHO...)
 
Slightly thawing on my lack of favour of Froome following the Giro, but to deny him the start would be ridiculous.

He's still a twat. And he still wins Grand Tours because of the embarassment of riches he has supporting him. But he should absolutely start the tour.

The dicking around the authorities have been doing to keep this still open is the real calamity.:facepalm:

eta: Absolutely loving the parcours this year. Real shaker-uppers amongst them (though I think the 65km stage is a gimmick too far and will be pretty dry)

eta2: OPQS (with their wolfpack silliness) are going to be going for all non-mountain goat stage wins. Hopefully that animates things too :thumbs:
 
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The shit certainly hit the fan last night. The initial report given to me said he was banned, later reports and this morning say they want to ban him.
I gather it's all live on itv4 this year, as opposed to bits of live stuff and highlights :thumbs:
 
I heard it was case closed. Well that's hardly conclusive is it. Neither guilty or innocent. :rolleyes:

Correction, the UCI said "there has been no breach"!
 
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This is really bad news, not because Froome got off but because it probably just got harder to do anyone for using a substance that is permitted below certain thresholds. Salbutamol may as well be completely legal now, the question is to what extent thresholds can be enforced when it comes to other drugs.

The Kreuziger case has already it seems undermined the biopassport.
 
To be honest I still don't understand what advantage cyclists get from using it if they aren't asthmatic. Is it a cover for something else?
 
I would guess it helps them breath better and get more oxygen into the blood.
Aren't Sky on record as saying the press reports about the levels inaccurate. Press reports state he was twice the legal limit whereas sky say it was marginal!

ITV coverage and reports; it's all live.
 
I would guess it helps them breath better and get more oxygen into the blood.
Aren't Sky on record as saying the press reports about the levels inaccurate. Press reports state he was twice the legal limit whereas sky say it was marginal!

ITV coverage and reports; it's all live.
Yeah. Brailsford yesterday was saying 19% not double.
 
19% over when adjusted for dehydration due to having ridden up a mountain in the Spanish sunshine.

He’s clean. Not that the haters are ever going to accept that.
 
This. He's such a perfectionist dull twat the idea of him cheating is, honestly, inconceivable. Sadly.

He got thrown out of the Giro for hanging on to a police motorbike, has been fined (multiple times) for taking musettes outside feed zones and jogged up Ventoux. All cheating.
 
No, you get it by riding for a team that can have multiple GC contenders riding as domestiques.
No, he was still a domestique when he transformed himself, 85th on the tour of Poland to second in the vuelta a few weeks later.

But ask yourself, are the likes of contador, valverde clean?. And he is beating them clean?
 
He got thrown out of the Giro for hanging on to a police motorbike, has been fined (multiple times) for taking musettes outside feed zones and jogged up Ventoux. All cheating.
Some fans are deluded. You can't convince them.

My mate actually blocked me on Facebook for daring to suggest Armstrong was a cheat. The admission came not long after :facepalm:
 
I'm hoping Froome gets knocked off his bike and has to retire and Geraint Thomas gets promoted to leader and wins the tour. I'd also like to see Adam Yates do well again but I think he has a long career ahead of him so he doesn't really need to win it yet.

No Thomas Voeckler this year though. :(
 
19% over when adjusted for dehydration due to having ridden up a mountain in the Spanish sunshine.

He’s clean. Not that the haters are ever going to accept that.

He’s a professional athlete, a professional cyclist, a professional cyclist who wins races, the most successful Grand Tour cyclist of his generation and he was dogshit until halfway through his career. Vouching for anyone who ticks even one of those boxes is as good a definition of insanity as I can think of unless you are actually married to them.

(Also “adjusted for dehydration” my bollocks.)

What’s happened here is that in seeking to protect Froome’s right to massively load up on a specified substance, Sky’s money and lawyers have undermined anti-drug enforcement across sports. Anyone who welcomes that is an idiot.
 
Also, just been plotting the dates in my calendar, its a real shithouse scheduling for the weekends. First is 2 sprint stages (necessary as Grand Depart ofc), but second weekend is a sprint stage and the Roubaix stage (ok, not bad)...3rd weekend is rouler stage with a final kick on Sat and a single Cat 1 on the Sunday. Last weekend is the 31km itt and Champs procession.

All the decent stages are buried in the week! Sprinters have no business showing their face after the first weekend and before Paris!
 
“Massively load up on a specified substance”

I think you need to read up on the pharmacology of the substance in question.
 
He got thrown out of the Giro for hanging on to a police motorbike, has been fined (multiple times) for taking musettes outside feed zones and jogged up Ventoux. All cheating.

Chris(t) on a bike...Going full C3P0 up Ventoux wasn't cheating, it was survival!

For the record, the fact he claims to be British yet fails to see it as his duty to pay taxes here is the next thing (I'll admit to) as to why I can't support him. This is genuinely not just because he's Chris Froome, I'm pretty gobsmacked that it's tolerated at all tbh, but it's a different subject altogether...
 
He’s a professional athlete, a professional cyclist, a professional cyclist who wins races, the most successful Grand Tour cyclist of his generation and he was dogshit until halfway through his career. Vouching for anyone who ticks even one of those boxes is as good a definition of insanity as I can think of unless you are actually married to them.

(Also “adjusted for dehydration” my bollocks.)

What’s happened here is that in seeking to protect Froome’s right to massively load up on a specified substance, Sky’s money and lawyers have undermined anti-drug enforcement across sports. Anyone who welcomes that is an idiot.

"As it goes, it turns out our tests that we've relied on for all these years....are bullshit. Conveniently Sky prepared a 150 page document telling us so..."

Again, this all makes more sense that him tugging a few cheeky extra puffs with the army of advisors and docs around him, but still makes everyone look shit.
 
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