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Tamsin bloody Omond

Where people get their information and opinion from now, I am not sure.
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Their next door neighbour, work colleagues, TV, radio, the printed press and that thing you're using to communicate with us on this board at the moment.
 
kyser_soze said:
I suspect that there's a reading of the subtext to your words that you are making a moralistic point about TV and other forms of mass media as being bad for people, implying there are variants of morally approvable media that act as improvers rather than bread & circus distractions and reinforcers of the dominant ideology.
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There's a tendency on here to imagine that if you criticise certain aspects of widespread behaviour, you're somehow being elitist or moralistic. It's strange, this rush to defend major aspects of popular culture on the part of people who claim to want to revolutionise society. It gives the impression either that some people just want to get rid of the bits they don't like and keep the ones they do, or that it will be so like the present after the revolution that it's not worth the sacrifice, bloodshed and heartache.

The reality is that I wasn't even excluding myself from what I was saying. How could I not be affected to some extent by an all-pervasive media? I mean, I'm probably affected less than most people I know, but that's because I'm ace.
 
LLETSA said:
There's a tendency on here to imagine that if you criticise certain aspects of widespread behaviour, you're somehow being elitist or moralistic. It's strange, this rush to defend major aspects of popular culture on the part of people who claim to want to revolutionise society. It gives the impression either that some people just want to get rid of the bits they don't like and keep the ones they do, or that it will be so like the present after the revolution that it's not worth the sacrifice, bloodshed and heartache.

The reality is that I wasn't even excluding myself from what I was saying. How could I not be affected to some extent by an all-pervasive media? I mean, I'm probably affected less than most people I know, but that's because I'm ace.
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I think one of the things, certainly that I think of, is that there is a certain moralising tendency in some left wingers about popular culture in general - not just that it's a transmission vector for idelogy etc etc, but that they hark back to some imagined golden age (or future, yes hark back to the future. I went there. I said it.) where all w/c people listen to complex but improving classical music, fabulously complex and worthy writing and so on and eschew the evil works of Cowell, and that even a 'correct/worthy/improving' popular culture would in some way be culturally degenerate.

I mean, I'm probably affected less than most people I know, but that's because I'm ace
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:D Me too. For sure. I definitely eschew Cowell.
 
kyser_soze said:
I think one of the things, certainly that I think of, is that there is a certain moralising tendency in some left wingers about popular culture in general - not just that it's a transmission vector for idelogy etc etc, but that they hark back to some imagined golden age (or future, yes hark back to the future. I went there. I said it.) where all w/c people listen to complex but improving classical music, fabulously complex and worthy writing and so on and eschew the evil works of Cowell, and that even a 'correct/worthy/improving' popular culture would in some way be culturally degenerate.
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Is this true, though, or a myth? It couldn't,I don't think, be said of any socialist I've met that they imagine any such golden age ever existed.

While there is plenty of disdain-and rightly so for the X-Factor/Big Brother/Strictly culture, it cuts right across the political spectrum
 
Well Russia was full of them. Soviet cultural expression was incredibly deeply rooted in the classical tradition of Europe - whether you choose to call it leitkultur or something else, it's tied into what Capt Hurrah said (on this thread? another similar one?) about the emphasis placed on education.
 
kyser_soze said:
Well Russia was full of them. Soviet cultural expression was incredibly deeply rooted in the classical tradition of Europe - whether you choose to call it leitkultur or something else, it's tied into what Capt Hurrah said (on this thread? another similar one?) about the emphasis placed on education.
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Although there's a lot of truth in that, there was still plenty of highly popular low quality and peurile mass entertainment in the USSR. And I doubt very much that there are many of those who still consider themselves Communists in the former Soviet Union, let alone leftists in the West, who'd regard the Soviet period as a golden age.
 
I think I should have edited the phrase 'harking back(or forward)...' out of my post really, and just stuck to the point instead of the rhetorical flourish.
 
Tamsin Omond and Laurie Penny were chosen to be on a Olympics-related trip to the Arctic, discussing utopic island-states and climate change.

http://nowhereisland.org/journey/expedition-team/

"In September 2011, Alex returns to the Arctic to retrieve the island territory, which will be sailed into international waters and declared a new nation before being transported to England. In July 2012, Nowhereisland will arrive in Weymouth for the opening of the sailing events of the London 2012 Olympic Games before voyaging around the south west coast accompanied by its land-based Embassy. Six weeks later Nowhereisland will arrive in Bristol for finale of the Cultural Olympiad."

A psychologist mentions climate change here:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-14946171

Apparently they left Britain on 10 September according to Laurie Penny

http://pennyred.blogspot.com/2011/09/news-from-nowhere.html#comments
 
smokedout said:
perhaps they'll drown, got to look on the bright side after all
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Tamsin Omond was at a champagne party with Christine Hamilton over the summer.

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She was also in a photoshoot for Tatler magazine:



(think I've finally got the hang of embedding)
 
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