Support the French Rioters!

[ClassWar]

Over 300 French towns and cities have now seen riots against the police and the government. More will follow.

Youth in cities as far as Brussels and Berlin have shown their support - it is time we did the same.

As the French state prepares for curfews and an even bigger crack down against working class support, we say loud and clear "Support the rioters".

Make your voice heard at the French embasssy in London at 3pm on Thursday 10th November. The address:

French Embassy in the United Kingdom
58 Knightsbridge,
LONDON SW1X 7JT

 

[Kid_Eternity]

Youth in cities as far as Brussels and Berlin have shown their support - it is time we did the same.

"We" going to go burn some diplomats cars are "we"?

 

[Random]

"We" going to go burn some diplomats cars are "we"?

What woukd be wrong with that?

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

http://www.drudgereport.com/flash1.htm

 

[Barney Bee]

There aren't 300 French cities.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

What woukd be wrong with that?

What would be right with it?

 

[In Bloom]

http://www.drudgereport.com/flash1.htm

Relevance?

 

[ClassWar]

There aren't 300 French cities.

Towns and cities - thanks for the help Barney Bee!

 

[Brainaddict]

From where I'm standing I'd say they don't really need your support classwar - I don't think anything you could do would get them any more attention than they've already got
Of course, it may be that what you and your friends want to do is lay a particular ideological interpretation over what is happening in French cities right now - but that would be very different from *supporting* the rioters - yes, a very different thing indeed I'd say

 

[JHE]

Support the French Rioters!

Yeah, OK - but in solidarity with the rioters in France, what should I do first?

• Pour petrol on a bus driver and set him alight
• Beat an old man to death
• Try to burn down a synagogue
• Burn my working class neighbours' cars

 

[potential]

Over 300 French towns and cities have now seen riots against the police and the government. More will follow.

Youth in cities as far as Brussels and Berlin have shown their support - it is time we did the same.

As the French state prepares for curfews and an even bigger crack down against working class support, we say loud and clear "Support the rioters".

ill will send them your address them so they can burn down everything
you own ... smash the state, we'll start with your house first...

 

[In Bloom]

Yeah, OK - but in solidarity with the rioters in France, what should I do first?

• Pour petrol on a bus driver and set him alight
• Beat an old man to death
• Try to burn down a synagogue
• Burn my working class neighbours' cars

Or you could always just lump thousands of people together as if they were all one homogenous mass.

 

[BAKU9]

About time too! Good on yers!

 

[Dan Jakopovich]

Yeah, OK - but in solidarity with the rioters in France, what should I do first?

• Pour petrol on a bus driver and set him alight
• Beat an old man to death
• Try to burn down a synagogue
• Burn my working class neighbours' cars

Precisely. Antisocial Scum many of them (they're probably the same who beat up and robbed protesting left-wing students recently...although I feel very sorry for the boys who got electrocuted, and am aware capitalism creates shit like this..."you, for whom all men are prey, have made them what they are today" and all that). Nothing positive about it I'm afraid. And probably a huge chance for the Right.

 

[AnnO'Neemus]

Relevance?

"Three teenage boys have been arrested in France for inciting violence by using their websites to urge others to join the rioting that is raging in the country, Justice Minister Pascal Clement told a media conference Monday."

Relevance as in OP has asked people to show their support, in what way? *Could* *potentially* be construed as inciting violence.

 

[Taxamo Welf]

Over 300 French towns and cities have now seen riots against the police and the government. More will follow.

Youth in cities as far as Brussels and Berlin have shown their support - it is time we did the same.

As the French state prepares for curfews and an even bigger crack down against working class support, we say loud and clear "Support the rioters".

Make your voice heard at the French embasssy in London at 3pm on Thursday 10th November. The address:

French Embassy in the United Kingdom
58 Knightsbridge,
LONDON SW1X 7JT

I thought CW would say something like this.

Thanks you've helped me make up my mind about something

Dan, you remember that promise i amde in the bar once? Yes, i'll join.

 

[maomao]

Relevance as in OP has asked people to show their support, in what way? *Could* *potentially* be construed as inciting violence.

Demonstrating outside embassies is a traditional and established form of peaceful protest. How could it possibly be construed as inciting violence?

I won't be there 'cause I'm a lazy fat git but good luck.

 

[rednblack]

Dan, you remember that promise i amde in the bar once? Yes, i'll join.

joining the af eh?

 

[In Bloom]

"Three teenage boys have been arrested in France for inciting violence by using their websites to urge others to join the rioting that is raging in the country, Justice Minister Pascal Clement told a media conference Monday."

Relevance as in OP has asked people to show their support, in what way? *Could* *potentially* be construed as inciting violence.

How could the OP possibly be considered inciting violence? Nobody is advocating smashing up the embassy.

 

[rednblack]

Precisely. Antisocial Scum many of them (they're probably the same who beat up and robbed protesting left-wing students recently...although I feel very sorry for the boys who got electrocuted, and am aware capitalism creates shit like this..."you, for whom all men are prey, have made them what they are today" and all that). Nothing positive about it I'm afraid. And probably a huge chance for the Right.

yes...but since you've already shown yourself to be an anti working class fuckwit who believes in vanguardism that post is no surprise how many orgnisations have you joined now anyway?

nasty scary poor people causing trouble !!!11

 

[rednblack]

How could the OP possibly be considered inciting violence? Nobody is advocating smashing up the embassy.

that would be extremely stupid in the current climate - solidarity is a diferent matter altogether...

 

[Taxamo Welf]

solidarity with whom about what? to adapt a well known phrase.
I think this seems more like cliaming something for something it is not.

i'm going to read what the french @ wrote on the other thread.

Don't lay into me i, as usual these are genuine questions not challenges disguised as questions.

right, read it; it said what i expected. I'm not sure what to think really. Yes this is what happens when we have the current world economic system; but no i don't think this is neccessarily something that we can support. Er... At least not in a crass way. I don't support the rioters actions, but their motivations iyswim. I would go to the embassy demo to say 'this is what you get' but not 'i support the rioters': as in Bloom said, that's a generalisation.

 

[Dan Jakopovich]

yes...but since you've already shown yourself to be an anti working class fuckwit who believes in vanguardism that post is no surprise QUOTE]
How did I show that? (fuck, and I hoped no one would notice)

Taxamo Welf, I drink in your honour!

 

[Sorry.]

How did you feel about the Bradford riots? Did you feel a sense of solidarity with the asian youth and their actions? Or did you understand and sympathise, but ultimately see the situation as a tragedy of capitalism and an example of inequality leading to such a tragedy - not an easy 2 sided fight.

I'm not sure the Bradford comparison fits so well. There is a difference between a riot born out of intercommunal strife and one reacting to institutional prejudice (and I think the events in France are the latter).

but no i don't think this is neccessarily something that we can support. Er... At least not in a crass way. I don't support the rioters actions, but their motivations iyswim. I would go to the embassy demo to say 'this is what you get' but not 'i support the rioters': as in Bloom said, that's a generalisation.

Which parts are you not supporting?
Rioting per se?
Some as yet unpublished aims?
Specific actions undertaken by the rioters?
The reasons for rioting?
Do you know something we don't regarding the motivations?

 

[Taxamo Welf]

No... I'm being abit wet really. I hadn't read into this properly and was comparing it to bradford totally incorrectly; I'm retracting my statement, suffice to say i am uneasy with crass statements.

 

[Taxamo Welf]

Which parts are you not supporting?

I will say:

Rioting per se?

No.

Some as yet unpublished aims?

No.

Specific actions undertaken by the rioters?

Yes.

The reasons for rioting?

No.

Do you know something we don't regarding the motivations?

No.

Overall i think the rioting is happening for a legitimate reason - inequality and police racism - but the actions taken are not in the interest of anyone and are immature. And i judge that on reports beignthat it is generally small crowds of young men, that nobody wants to claim the violence as there own/as justified, the appeals by community leaders for it to cease, the attacks on the infirm, the attacks on their own areas and social spaces.
I don't have the right, on so many levels, to judge the actions of the oppressed fighting back. But nevertheless this is my opinion.

 

[Taxamo Welf]

yes...but since you've already shown yourself to be an anti working class fuckwit who believes in vanguardism that post is no surprise

can you explain that please.

oh and 4 words for you RnB: dictatorship of the proletariat...

how many organisations have you joined now anyway?

as many as he feels he can be of use to i assume. Not something to attack someone over, slightly out of order in fact.

nasty scary poor people causing trouble !!!11

how do you feel about it all then mate?

 

[Taxamo Welf]

Nothing positive about it I'm afraid.

a couple of things maybe:

It demonstrates that social inequality DOES lead to class war*

It shows that not everyone has been pacified.

It shows that its not actually that hard to take on the police and that an insurrection isn't such a ridiculous concept*


*it could be argued; not neccessarily what i'd say.

 

[rednblack]

oh and 4 words for you RnB: dictatorship of the proletariat...

that's not vanguardist necerssarily

i'll come back on the rest when i'm less stoned

 

[Isambard]

Sorry, is it me or are there a shed load of new posters wirh "wiberal" views?
Nice peeps we haven't had a mash up with yet? Journos? Coppers? Les Flics Spooké maybe?