Squire and Partners in Lambeth

[Gramsci]

I've not made a lot of "assumptions" - what I say is from direct knowledge.

I've also not claimed that no architects like working for wealthy clients. Absolutely some do and some like high end work and seek it out and would rather do that even if other work was as well paid.

Patrick Shuhmacher's political views are exceptional for the profession overall - again I tell you this from an informed position.

Nor have I said anything about being grateful for charity. What I object to is the presumption that Squires are only helping out with the Windmill out of cynical self interest. I don't think that's fair. And the idea that they will bring a bunch of employees on fat salaries is fallacious.

If your refering to your previous post I commented on you said you didn't know anything about the bosses at Squires. Now ur saying you are talking from direct knowledge.

 

[Gramsci]

I've not made a lot of "assumptions" - what I say is from direct knowledge.

I've also not claimed that no architects like working for wealthy clients. Absolutely some do and some like high end work and seek it out and would rather do that even if other work was as well paid.

Patrick Shuhmacher's political views are exceptional for the profession overall - again I tell you this from an informed position.

Nor have I said anything about being grateful for charity. What I object to is the presumption that Squires are only helping out with the Windmill out of cynical self interest. I don't think that's fair. And the idea that they will bring a bunch of employees on fat salaries is fallacious.

I talk to architects. Including local ones. My view of Squires is partly informed by them.

 

[teuchter]

If your refering to your previous post I commented on you said you didn't know anything about the bosses at Squires. Now ur saying you are talking from direct knowledge.

I talk to architects. Including local ones. My view of Squires is partly informed by them.

I talk from direct knowledge about the architectural profession generally, what tends to be the motivation behind what kind of work is taken on, and how much salaried architects are paid, which is a lot less than some of the bonkers numbers posted earlier in this thread. I would put money on talking more regularly to a much wider range of architects than you do. But I don't know specifically about the bosses at Squires, which is why I was careful to make that clear in my post along with the fact that my speculation about their possible motivations was based on my general knowledge of how architectural practices tend to operate. I was not assuming anything about them. I was not making "lots of assumptions" as you said. I also was not claiming the things your reply implied. Nor was I particularly disagreeing with anything you'd said previously.

 

[ricbake]

19 September 2017 - £18
"...hosted by Squire and Partners in their new Brixton office, The Department Store. Providing a platform for the area’s finest creative talent..."

Brixton Design Trail: Craft & Collaboration at The Department Store

 

[editor]

19 September 2017 - £18
"...hosted by Squire and Partners in their new Brixton office, The Department Store. Providing a platform for the area’s finest creative talent..."

Brixton Design Trail: Craft & Collaboration at The Department Store

£18?!! Well, that gives a pretty clear indication about which kind of locals they're inviting in to their new chichi offices.

 

[CH1]

£18?!! Well, that gives a pretty clear indication about which kind of locals they're inviting in to their new chichi offices.

I was told by an outraged punter that Sam Brooks Brewery tour @ £10 was an outrage (the £10 did not include any beer).

Talking of which has anyone seen the Open House London schedule? Anything interesting actually FREE on 16/17 September?

 

[sparkybird]

Brixton Windmill (the one with the sails) is open 16 and 17th and is free
Added bonus is a free Harvest Festival event on the 17th too!

What's on - brixton windmill

 

[shakespearegirl]

£18?!! Well, that gives a pretty clear indication about which kind of locals they're inviting in to their new chichi offices.

Alternatively, you could go to this free event at the new chichi offices.

Brixton Design Trail: ART AND SOUL

 

[snowy_again]

BDT has a founder from Squire doesn't it, along with Binki & the crafty fox people amongst others.

UNDER/EXPOSED – Brixton Design Trail

 

[editor]

BDT has a founder from Squire doesn't it, along with Binki & the crafty fox people amongst others.

UNDER/EXPOSED – Brixton Design Trail

They've taken over the entire PR of the event.

 

[editor]

Alternatively, you could go to this free event at the new chichi offices.

Brixton Design Trail: ART AND SOUL

Maybe you're OK with it, but I can't help feeling a bit uncomfortable with an event about gentrification being hosted in a place that represents the very essence of gentrification, especially when it's all supposed to be about love, community and diversity.

 

[shakespearegirl]

I don't think it does represented the essence of gentrification, it is a commercial building that has been restored and is operating as a business.

 

[Angellic]

I don't think it does represented the essence of gentrification, it is a commercial building that has been restored and is operating as a business.

Brixton Pound Cafe and BCA Cafe are food partners.

 

[editor]

I don't think it does represented the essence of gentrification, it is a commercial building that has been restored and is operating as a business.

A building owned by a high end firm that caters to the architectural fancies of millionaires and billionaires.

We'll have to disagree on this one.

Incidentally, the Art and Soul talk is brought to you by the people who wanted to build a million pound crowdfunded sculpture of the Bowie ZigZag.

 

[snowy_again]

They've taken over the entire PR of the event.

Or if you believe the section here: The BDT team – Brixton Design Trail and click on Julia Nichols it suggests that Julia / Squire has always done the PR for it.

Just noticed 198 Gallery's Jon Daniel's also part of it too.

 

[editor]

Or if you believe the section here: The BDT team – Brixton Design Trail and click on Julia Nichols it suggests that Julia / Squire has always done the PR for it.

OK, well if that is the case, this year the press releases appear to be more heavily branded. I like the idea of the Design Trail a lot but I am feeling a disconnect between its 'community' aims and a lot of what is being presented.

 

[shakespearegirl]

A building owned by a high end firm that caters to the architectural fancies of millionaires and billionaires.

We'll have to disagree on this one.

Incidentally, the Art and Soul talk is brought to you by the people who wanted to build a million pound crowdfunded sculpture of the Bowie ZigZag.

We can agree to disagree

 

[ricbake]

They have been very helpful to the Friends of Windmill Gardens and our new education/community building - working pro bono and going over and above the call of duty.
I guess they can do this type of work by also doing high end stuff for people who can afford it
I operate on the same basis for my work.....

Were Squire and Partners doing the design of the building etc - Did they know the budget? Is the doubling or more of the cost related to poor instruction or over ambitious specification by the architects?

 

[editor]

Were Squire and Partners doing the design of the building etc - Did they know the budget? Is the doubling or more of the cost related to poor instruction or over ambitious specification by the architects?

Something has clearly gone very wrong in the planning/design process, with the Council admitting, “It has become clear that the current budget is not enough to build the required education centre.”

The cost for the proposed Brixton Windmill Education Centre has more than doubled. Lambeth Council calculated that £360,000 would be enough to build the centre at Windmill Gardens. It is now looking for a further £393,000 as the total cost has risen to £753,000.

Cost of Education Centre for Brixton Windmill more than doubles to £753,000 as Lambeth Council miscalculates price

 

[Rushy]

I reckon their running costs of just over £100pw to run the place sounds very optimistic, although who knows what is actually included.

£5,000 / sqm build cost for what will be a glorified shed is really quite outstanding. I suspect it has a lot to do with the type of approved list contractors the council is committed to using.

 

[phillm]

We can agree to disagree

I'd like to both agree and disagree with both of you.

 

[ViolentPanda]

I was told by an outraged punter that Sam Brooks Brewery tour @ £10 was an outrage (the £10 did not include any beer).

Talking of which has anyone seen the Open House London schedule? Anything interesting actually FREE on 16/17 September?

Cressingham Gardens!

 

[ricbake]

Canova Hall opening September 23rd Ferndale Rd / Stockwell Ave

BOTTOMLESS BRUNCH, EVERY SATURDAY & SUNDAY – from 11am till 5pm
Choose from our Bottomless Brunch Bar for £20pp over a two hour sitting.
Mimosa's, Frizzante or Canova Rum Punch.

OPEN LATE EVERY FRIDAY & SATURDAY – Open till 1am
Pizza to eat-in or takeaway till close.

DJ'S EVERY FRIDAY & SATURDAY – Open till 1am

SATURDAY 23RD - OPENING WEEKEND
BOTTOMLESS BRUNCH
- from 11am till 5pm

DJ TWIGGY
- from 8pm till 1am

SUNDAY 24TH – OPENING WEEKEND
BOTTOMLESS BRUNCH
- from 11am till 5pm

DJ TWIGGY
- from 8pm till 1am

 

[Mr Retro]

I reckon their running costs of just over £100pw to run the place sounds very optimistic, although who knows what is actually included.

£5,000 / sqm build cost for what will be a glorified shed is really quite outstanding. I suspect it has a lot to do with the type of approved list contractors the council is committed to using.

You couldn't run a 3 bedroom semi on £100 a week. You could build the Sagrada Familia for 5 grand a square metre.

 

[Angellic]

Canova Hall opening September 23rd Ferndale Rd / Stockwell Ave

BOTTOMLESS BRUNCH, EVERY SATURDAY & SUNDAY – from 11am till 5pm
Choose from our Bottomless Brunch Bar for £20pp over a two hour sitting.
Mimosa's, Frizzante or Canova Rum Punch.

OPEN LATE EVERY FRIDAY & SATURDAY – Open till 1am
Pizza to eat-in or takeaway till close.

DJ'S EVERY FRIDAY & SATURDAY – Open till 1am

SATURDAY 23RD - OPENING WEEKEND
BOTTOMLESS BRUNCH
- from 11am till 5pm

DJ TWIGGY
- from 8pm till 1am

SUNDAY 24TH – OPENING WEEKEND
BOTTOMLESS BRUNCH
- from 11am till 5pm

DJ TWIGGY
- from 8pm till 1am

Pizzas seem more expensive than Mamma Dough, which are more expensive than 500 Degrees.

 

[CH1]

Why bother with £10-£20 a go when a stone's throw away you can get "one of the unhealthiest" full English breakfast options for a mere £3.59?

 

[T & P]

Why bother with £10-£20 a go when a stone's throw away you can get "one of the unhealthiest" full English breakfast options for a mere £3.59?

I think you've answered your own question there

 

[editor]

I think you've answered your own question there

Unhealthy can still be very tasty though!

 

[editor]

Pizzas seem more expensive than Mamma Dough, which are more expensive than 500 Degrees.

The days of affordable restaurants and cafes opening up in Brixton seem long gone, sadly.

 

[bimble]

Walked by today on way to the post office. The cafe they've created is (I think) really quite beautiful, I love that sort of 20s glamour the little beaded lamps and all.
Is that going to be open to everyone when it opens ? Wasn't quite sure whether its a cafe or a workspace.