FridgeMagnet
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and there'd be decent gunfights, and Bruce Willis would get the crap beaten out of him repeatedly (always a good thing)
These things are lacking here.
These things are lacking here.
Spooks Series 4!
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CyberRose
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Nah he probly just read that article that David Shayler wrote about Spooks!AverageJoe said:You know how when Army people watch a war film and say 'that doesn't happen like that', or medical people watch medical programs and go 'ohh, they've got that wrong'?
Well, I watched Spooks with someone who did the same thing.
Where's my tin foil hat?
Larry O'Hara
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starfish said:
What Red Squirrel was saying is simple--all the above films can be seen as 'entertainment', which did not preclude, even facilitated, them having real & pernicious effects.
Not understanding that, mind you, explains why your criticisms of the position I have advocated here haven't hit the mark.
Larry O'Hara
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Rocket Romano said:
Now, Alan Rickman in 'Die Hard' 2 (I think)--what a performance. Every time I watch it I want him to win this time!!
Larry O'Hara said:
Yeah me too.
Die Hard always made bad guys seem human...or at least likeable
Next week Spooks seems to be about the rise of the Far Right and the Spooks teams attempt to stop it...hmmm
FridgeMagnet
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Alan Rickman was Die Hard 1. Jeremy Irons was 3 (With A Vengeance).
Who was in 2?
Who was in 2?
Bob_the_lost
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I liked the start of the new serries, but i knew it was the yanks before the end of the first episode, the bit about the job and the past history was a dead giveaway that the new evil female charecter would be staying, and the time they spent on her security clearance issues meant they were setting her up to be the main suspect.
Obvious, but enjoyable.
Obvious, but enjoyable.
FridgeMagnet
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Yeah, I just looked it up on IMDB and I didn't recognise any of the names.Spymaster said:2 Was "Die Harder" the one at the airport when the US marines turn out to be the bad guys (Bruce blows them up by lighting an aircrafts fuel leak with a Zippo)
Can't remember the baddies.
Jeremy Irons was good in Die Harder
Must be really depressing being a German actor.
Must be really depressing being a German actor.
starfish
No dialogue. Just plot.
Larry O'Hara said:
What criticisms? Maybe its you who doesnt understand. See in my post 57, i said i was responding to Fridgemagnet, not you, get it.
And i knew what Redsquirrel was trying to get at but i found it fucking ridiculous that someone would try to compare Spooks to Triumph of the Will or Birth of a Nation. Save that kind of shit for P&P.
redsquirrel
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Then perhaps you should use the quote function.starfish said:
AverageJoe
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Larry O'Hara said:
"You wanted a miracle - Ladies and Gentlemen...I give you...the F...B...I"
Best Line in the fillum!
Larry O'Hara
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Rocket Romano said:
but in real life, MI5 don't 'stop it' but seek to control/manipulate & even direct such groups at times. Not to mention pushing 'hit lists' into circulation via proxies. And we can be damn sure Spooks won't get this close to the bone (or should I say Blade-bone?
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Haven't seen last night's one yet - but thought episode 3 (the far right party one) was really good, more in the style of the earlier serieses.
chinchilla
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Hi RD,
Do you know if series 3 is available yet on pirate dvd in China?
I know series 2 is but if 3 is out i might need to do a border hop.
Do you know if series 3 is available yet on pirate dvd in China?
I know series 2 is but if 3 is out i might need to do a border hop.
chinchilla said:
I dunno. I've only found Series 1 over here, as yet. Not found 2 or 3. Haven't seen any of Series 3 so would like to find a box set if possible...
You can download the current series on UKNOva. episodes 4 and 5 just put up, although there's a delay at the moment for those with low ratios.
Rocket Romano said:
But compared to most British TV programmes it's extremely well done. I agree that it's pure entertainment, but still one of the best examples of its genre from the UK in a long time, even in this new series that isn't quite as good as the old ones.
chinchilla
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No Download capabilities unforunately,
Saw spooks series 2 all over shenzen and shanghai last times i was there, if i see it again i will let you know
Saw spooks series 2 all over shenzen and shanghai last times i was there, if i see it again i will let you know
chinchilla said:
Yeah Wuhan isn't very good for finding UK Tv series for some reason
Where are you?
chinchilla
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Hong Kong, Its getting trickier to get pirate DVDS across, Customs are cracking down, there is one shop here that has copies of all the english series but for about 3 times the price of the Shenzen pirates.
Spooks series 3 as an original here is about 50 pounds.
Spooks series 3 as an original here is about 50 pounds.
chinchilla said:
Wow, that's nearly twice the price of it in the UK...
chinchilla
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Thats HMV for you.
I saw a bit of Spooks last week, in a moment of sheer boredom. It was one of the funniest things I've seen for ages. Rarely do you see so many cliches in one programme - stolid security servicement mouthing catchphrases about how 'the system is usually strong enough to stand up to the mavericks ... but now?' and sending out handsome, 007-esque agents to fight cardboard cut-out terrorists and neo-fascists, all topped off with some of the most cliched sets and most wooden acting I've seen in a long time. Tbh it was utter rubbish, but mildly amusing for five minutes.
I'd fondly thought it was mainly the Americans who went in for these hammy, badly-acted, implausible security service dramas. Obviously not.
I'd fondly thought it was mainly the Americans who went in for these hammy, badly-acted, implausible security service dramas. Obviously not.
FridgeMagnet
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We are really bad at them though; at least the yanks give them a level of glitz.Roadkill said:
Did anyone see that SAS thing with Grant Mitchell in it? What was that like? I can make a guess....
Larry O'Hara
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tim said:
Far be it from me to defend Spooks, but there were plausible things in there
1) Direct & unquestioned secret state intervention in the electoral process--shades of Marriner in 1977
but on a larger scale--eg along the lines of the Colin Wallace revelations2) Forging leaflets to discredit groups--reminiscent (for the connisseur) of the Blue C18 booklet Wells supplied to Browning & hence Griffin
3) Blackmailing gay politicians--Kincora Boys Home scandal/TARA
4) 'placing' stories in the media to discredit groups--eg The Cook Reports on both Griffin & McGuinness, and of course the ongoing BBC 'Secret Agent' saga
5) Encouraging internal splits primarily--eg the O'Brien stuff in the 1970s NF, or indeed aspects of the 1986 NF split, & maybe the C18;BNP rivalry up to a point, as well as (perm any of these) Nationalist Alliance/WNP/rump NF etc. Not to mention the amazing shenanigans in UKIP over the years
6) Promising bogus donations to get politicians online--a staple eg the Cook Report again (1997)
7) Multiple low-level council harassment--painting door/car interference/utilities disruption.
I agree, on a more fundamentally implausible, in that
a) it is assumed MI5 opposes racism/fascism--whereas in reality they seek to use such types
b) as I predicted, no mention of hit-lists being traded by spook assets: a la Northern Ireland & also Forewarned, as well as Targetters Targetted & such like.
c) there is no need to portray the leader of British Way, Moran, as a 'psychopath', even Lecomber (or Browning) wouldn't come close to this. Though in the light of a scenario manufactured in Leeds once, the crossbow use was a nice touch...
d) The genuineness of the BNP's turn to a novel neo-fascist strategy with electoralism as integral rather than incidental is not accepted.
e) having spent years living on estates in East London, let me just say the 'racial dynamics' of the mob action they showed aren't really credible, shall we?
f) the pious crap at the end from Dodgy Harry, having undertaken a course of action likely to encourage more (not less) street violence (from those excluded by the political process) to state that something will have to be done abour root causes. Classic humbug, especially when earlier the British Way are presented as the root cause!
So, implausible on a deeper level, but not on incidentals, including the clever production of a legend for the MI5 officer, who expected his flat to be broken into. Shades of Birmingham I thought there
And look on the bright side--one MI5 officer took an early bath & (we hear) a Torchlight asset developed a close interest in communing with nature..
Bob_the_lost
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But all of that is unrelated to last night's episode 
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