Southbank skateboard park - proposed re-location
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Black Halo
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I need to deploy the suspicious emoticon here
what is he up to?
ringo
Macaroni cheese controller
I need to deploy the suspicious emoticon here
Just what I was thinking, it's smacked of a fait accompli all along. Politicians don't normally attach themselves to lost causes, especially wankers like Boris.
TopCat
Putin fanboy
I bet that he is actually competent on a deck.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
one eye on the votes after closing 10 fire stations has left him looking a right cunt
The Southbank Centre is being incredibly flexible in accommodating the skaters. I've read through http://www.thefestivalwing.co.uk/explore/the-skateable-space/ -- the SB Centre is going to spend £1 million building a new skatepark 100 metres towards the London Eye and making it even bigger than it is now. Plus they're guaranteeing they'll continue to provide/maintain the skatepark.
Boris couldn't care less about the skaters, it's purely him seeing it as bringing in votes with no cost to himself.
The SB Centre have no obligation to provide a skate park, it is their land and their obligation is to provide art and performances. It's really Lambeth Council's obligation to be providing the skaters with a venue. If the SB centre was a commercial enterprise then the skatepark would have been kicked out years ago.
Of course the reason they're moving the skatepark is so they can have more shops/businesses where the skatepark is now - this is the only way they can bring in cash to pay for the galleries, exhibitions and performances in all the Southbank venues.
Personally, I'd much rather see the SBC having a greater income and being able to provide more art and performance for everyone. The restaurants and shops have made the area far more popular than it ever was in the past and more of them will be a good thing for the area. The skaters will still be able to skate and everyone'll be happier.
Boris couldn't care less about the skaters, it's purely him seeing it as bringing in votes with no cost to himself.
The SB Centre have no obligation to provide a skate park, it is their land and their obligation is to provide art and performances. It's really Lambeth Council's obligation to be providing the skaters with a venue. If the SB centre was a commercial enterprise then the skatepark would have been kicked out years ago.
Of course the reason they're moving the skatepark is so they can have more shops/businesses where the skatepark is now - this is the only way they can bring in cash to pay for the galleries, exhibitions and performances in all the Southbank venues.
Personally, I'd much rather see the SBC having a greater income and being able to provide more art and performance for everyone. The restaurants and shops have made the area far more popular than it ever was in the past and more of them will be a good thing for the area. The skaters will still be able to skate and everyone'll be happier.
joustmaster
offcumdun
i wonder who patrick works for..
ATOMIC SUPLEX
Member Since: 1985 Post Count: 3
Boris doesn't give a shit. He knows he won't and can't have any effect on the outcome. It just makes him look a bit 'down with the kids' to get the young london vote. He wants to look like he cares about keeping London the way it is, with two fingers up to any rampant capitalism, but of course he is just like all the other Tories, actually probably worse than most, and a lazy incompetent self serving buffoon to boot. When people have made real pleas to Boris to step in to stem big business projects that are obviously detrimental to local communities, he always backs big business, even in the face of massive local public protest.
He's on to a winner with this one, because he can't win (which means he wins). Plus as I understand it, it's private land so not really anything to do with him is it?
He's on to a winner with this one, because he can't win (which means he wins). Plus as I understand it, it's private land so not really anything to do with him is it?
sim667
All aboard the 303 bus.
Maybe they could use the extra money to get some security staff who aren't total cunts next time they do wonderland.
If the purpose of the Southbank Centre is to provide areas of creativity to the wider community and promote art and expression to the public, then desecrating the current skating area completely undermines their purpose as its the only bastion of true unadulterated expression (both skaters and graffiti) without the sole intent of profiteering in the entire Southbank Centre. Last time i went there it was to see Chris Cunningham, and that was about £40 a ticket, at a guess there's probably 1000 seats in that auditorium, and you can't convince me they aren't profiteering from that as I know damn well it doesn't cost them £40K to set up a couple of projectors and pay someone to stand on a stage and play his videos.
TopCat
Putin fanboy
Boris gets final say on the planning application so has a huge say. If he opposes the move then it won't happen.
TopCat
Putin fanboy
I have met him though and he was very charming.
ShiftyBagLady
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That's not accurate is it Patrick0? The proposed new (poorly designed) 'skateable space' will in fact be a programmable arts space ‘for the provision of arts and cultural events and activities, including use for commercial purposes and artistic rentals, related to the Owner’s programme of events and income generation as a centre for the arts.’ -( See more at: http://www.llsb.com/#sthash.M9tqmxhC.dpuf)
Yeah, great. More people, more litter, more drinking, more eating, more cluttering up the walkway... Have you seen the state of the place early on a saturday or sunday morning? It's a shithole. Covered in rubbish, broken glass etc. Aside from the fact that lots of local people won't even be able to afford to make use of these new units, bringing EVEN MORE people down to eat drink and be merry means more litter, more noise and a less inviting/usuable space for locals.
ShiftyBagLady
Thinks she is a flower to be looked at
There will shortly be more luxury flats along the Southbank as well as our Heygate neighbours. (http://www.southbanktower.com), God forbid they wouldn't have anywhere to Consume
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
But there's going to be all those rich cunts at Heygate down the road so they'll need to go to equally rich cunt places.
Won't someone think of the rich cunts.
I do, every time I sharpen a knife, I think of them.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Back when riverside (re-)development really kicked in, in the late '80s, I used to joke that the Thames would pretty much end up lined with housing for wealthy wankers.
I think the joke is on me, isn't it?
stupid dogbot
Haughty and Superior
It's looking like good news for the Undercroft...
http://www.thefestivalwing.co.uk/ne...-wing-final-search-alternative-funding-model/
http://www.thefestivalwing.co.uk/ne...-wing-final-search-alternative-funding-model/
ShiftyBagLady
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They are arranging some competitions and stuff at the weekend to celebrate the first anniversary of the campaign.
http://www.llsb.com/40-years-later-1-year-on-undercroft-community-jam-4-may/
http://www.llsb.com/40-years-later-1-year-on-undercroft-community-jam-4-may/
ShiftyBagLady
Thinks she is a flower to be looked at
I've found the absence of reportage on the campaign, the community behind the campaign and the importance of the space to them and to the area, quite perplexing. I mean, of course I understand the weight of the Southbank Centre and the might of their influence in London's media and culture etc but nobody really paid attention to the people and the reasons behind the campaign and there a real story there about how. London's public spaces are being monetised and communities marginalised and how culture and art have become the convenient guises of capitalism
Sadly, my impressions were right and only really the tip of the iceberg
http://www.llsb.com/mainstream-media-misses-the-point/
I'm really glad they've been successful so far, I have to say that I appreciate what they've done and in all my personal interactions they've been such a nice bunch of people, not pushy, not expectant, not raging against oppression B&B just patiently and kindly asking for support and sticking to their point despite provocation from the SBC.
They've also taught my boy how to ollie and given him encouragement as well as lots of other kids when they've had skateboarding lessons.
Sadly, my impressions were right and only really the tip of the iceberg
http://www.llsb.com/mainstream-media-misses-the-point/
I'm really glad they've been successful so far, I have to say that I appreciate what they've done and in all my personal interactions they've been such a nice bunch of people, not pushy, not expectant, not raging against oppression B&B just patiently and kindly asking for support and sticking to their point despite provocation from the SBC.
They've also taught my boy how to ollie and given him encouragement as well as lots of other kids when they've had skateboarding lessons.
Monkeygrinder's Organ
Dodgy geezer swilling vapid lager
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...uthbank-centre-undercroft-london-remains-open
Victory for the skaters! Excellent work everyone involved.
Fuck off Bragg.
Victory for the skaters! Excellent work everyone involved.
Fuck off Bragg.
ShiftyBagLady
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That article is a bit shit as it was never about the skateboarders digging their heels in and refusing to move along the river but about preserving a bit of cultural history...
Still. It's good, good news
The campaign has been so impressive; it's been such a positive campaign (despite a fair but of provocation, harassment and intimidation from some parties) that so much positivity has come out of it with lots of creative collaborations and extensions of the friendship and community that has resided there for decades. All of it done voluntarily by young people and passionate people. If it had failed it really would have broken my heart because of how positive and binding it has been. I'm really pleased for them
Still. It's good, good news
The campaign has been so impressive; it's been such a positive campaign (despite a fair but of provocation, harassment and intimidation from some parties) that so much positivity has come out of it with lots of creative collaborations and extensions of the friendship and community that has resided there for decades. All of it done voluntarily by young people and passionate people. If it had failed it really would have broken my heart because of how positive and binding it has been. I'm really pleased for them
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ShiftyBagLady
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Now, about that garden bridge...
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