Solidarity with Iran
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You could read the wretched book over a weekend. Why don't you? Bothered that you'll find lots of stuff you won't like?
Blathering about 'interpretation' isn't going to get round the rules about marriage (polygamy, not polyandry) and sex and punishment and inheritance and divorce and custody and so on.
People who desperately insist that Islam is better than it is, but refuse to read the bloody Koran..... Gawd, what an annoying bunch of twits!
Blathering about 'interpretation' isn't going to get round the rules about marriage (polygamy, not polyandry) and sex and punishment and inheritance and divorce and custody and so on.
People who desperately insist that Islam is better than it is, but refuse to read the bloody Koran..... Gawd, what an annoying bunch of twits!
What is happening in Iran is a classic class war. The workers and peasants, broadly speaking, support the regime. They are in general strongly religious, and they have received significant material benefits from the government. The bourgeoisie, broadly speaking, oppose the regime. They are in general Westernized, frequently even secular, and have seen their positions of privilege, and a fortieriori power, significantly eroded by the government.
The Iranians in exile obviously hate the regime. That is why they are in exile.
The Western Left is caught in an amusing conundrum. Their sympathy with the working classes is in perfect ideological contradiction with their doctrinaire materialism.
The synthesis likely to emerge out of this contradiction is that the Western Left will be forced to re-evaluate, and in some cases to abandon, its doctrinaire materialism. This will place it in a far better tactical position to deal with the realities of our post-secular age.
The Iranians in exile obviously hate the regime. That is why they are in exile.
The Western Left is caught in an amusing conundrum. Their sympathy with the working classes is in perfect ideological contradiction with their doctrinaire materialism.
The synthesis likely to emerge out of this contradiction is that the Western Left will be forced to re-evaluate, and in some cases to abandon, its doctrinaire materialism. This will place it in a far better tactical position to deal with the realities of our post-secular age.
please .. this is surely a thread about solidarity with the uprising .. discussion on islam etc can go elsewhere
would be nice if people deleted irrelevent posts
What would really be "nice" is if you stopped telling the rest of us what to do. Thank you in advance.
albionism
A successful virus clinging to a speck of mud.
Very good points made
kyser_soze
Hawking's Angry Eyebrow
Hmm, I was more under the impression that most Iranians are quite happy with their Islamic Republic which they view as a unique thing in it's attempt to fuse representative democracy within an Islamic framework (and Islam as a faith doesn't preclude such a thing by any means), and much of the demonstration is against what they see as a hijacking of it by a bunch of conservatives with a regressive agenda to create an Islamic government, rather than the current arrangement of secular govt with a theocratic 'oversight committee' in the form of the Panel of Experts.
Do you have any more details on exactly what the site is and who runs it? I only ask because I don't read Arabic and I'd hate to find out that people were being tricked into making malicious attacks on a totally innocuous site.
Ahmadinijad and his mob are as bourgeois as the opposition. What we're seeing (in terms of the elections), is one bourgeois faction fighting another, using working class people as a tool in that fight. Nothing new.
Having said that, the situation in Iran is more complex than just a disputed election, and it's definately more complex than this facile "students vs. workers and peasants" shit being propagated in the mainstream media.
ohmyliver
poppin' like a cork
it's in farsi, load it into google translate that will give you some indication to what it is (albeit in the style of The Times being read out by an avant guarde peformance poet)
Ah, silly mistake on my part.
The site's not currently working for me, presumbably because it's been DDoSed to death.
ACTION: protest at Iranian Embassy on Friday 26 June 2009, 12:30-1:30pm
Against the background of post-election turmoil in Iran, the TUC is joining Amnesty International and the International Transport Workers Federation (ITF) to organise a protest at the Iranian Embassy this Friday. Please come wearing black if possible.
As part of the Global Solidarity Action Day: Justice for Iranian Workers, we will protest from 12:30-1:30pm opposite the Iranian Embassy, 16 Prince’s Gate, London SW7 1PT in Knightsbridge.
http://www.justiceforiranianworkers.org/
Against the background of post-election turmoil in Iran, the TUC is joining Amnesty International and the International Transport Workers Federation (ITF) to organise a protest at the Iranian Embassy this Friday. Please come wearing black if possible.
As part of the Global Solidarity Action Day: Justice for Iranian Workers, we will protest from 12:30-1:30pm opposite the Iranian Embassy, 16 Prince’s Gate, London SW7 1PT in Knightsbridge.
http://www.justiceforiranianworkers.org/
if anyone is on Twitter, set your location to Tehran and your time zone to GMT +3.30. Security forces are hunting for critical bloggers using location/timezone searches. The more people at this location, the more of a logjam it creates for forces trying to shut Iranians' access to the internet down. Cut & paste & please pass it on
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